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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What do we do about safeguarding our girls?

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nottakingthisanymore · 09/10/2018 13:29

Following on from Brighton councils new advice.
We tell our girls that if they feel uncomfortable in the presence of a male to speak out. A male bodied person goes in the changing rooms. The girls are told to keep quiet, don’t upset them. Be nice.
My question is very simple. How is my daughter supposed to know which male bodied person is the type she should report and which is the type she should keep quiet about? I mean it’s so blatantly obvious to me that the only way to solve this is to have no male bodied people in female spaces. How can anyone disagree with this?

We are told that this male bodied person is trans so that means you’re safe. So we are supposed to just take someone’s word for it. In no other situation would that be acceptable. Would they take the word of my lovely dh if he went in a changing room? Of course not.

How can people not see the problem????

To quote the great Magdalen Berns- they are being so open minded their brains have fallen out. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that they just haven’t thought this through. There is now no point in teaching girls about boundaries. Instead we are teaching girls to keep thoughts to yourself. Be nice.

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GetOvaIt · 09/10/2018 13:48

I've thought about this too as I'm worried what inclusiveness training my daughter might get in brownies.
I'm telling her that if there are any men/willies in a girls space to get out and tell a grown up you trust. Her safety comes before anyone's feelings, and she is too young to differentiate between nice trans lady and a threat, so I have to make it black and white for her. Not sure any of us could assess the risk at first glance though, even as adults. I'd leave the room too.
I also tell her that if she is ever lost to go to a women who has her children with her. A definite female, who will understand to protect a lost child like her own.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/10/2018 13:57

I have 2 dds. And this worries me immensely. If my partner takes them out to see a film or go for dinner he has to rely on my older dd (12) to take dd 2 to the toilet.

If he takes them swimming they like to use the group change as there's more space than trying to cram into a cubicle. Again he can't go in and dd2 is nearly 8 so she's now too old for him to take to the men's.

I've always told her to find someone in uniform like the police or psco but even they are complicit now. All that's left is to tell them to go to a woman with children .

I really sorry now about how I can keep them both safe and without them giving up all the things they enjoy doing

GulagsMyArse · 09/10/2018 17:58

Your question, really highlights the insanity of this all. How can we teach our children boundaries, if they are taught that they are bigots if they don't want a male body in their changing rooms.

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