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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sticking our collective heads above the parapet

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NotZenEnough · 08/10/2018 19:45

A continuation of the other post. Saw this on Facebook earlier. Open to copy and pasting in case anyone wants it.

A couple of months ago I had my eyes opened to the government plans to simplify the Gender Recognition Act. If the plans go ahead, Transgender people will be able to fill in a form online which will enable them to self identify as their chosen gender. Feminists and women’s organisations are extremely concerned about transgender women (90%of whom retain fully functioning penises) entering women’s spaces, like refuges, prisons, changing rooms, bathrooms, and also organisations like the girl guides, and youth hostels. Predatory men will go to great lengths to access women and children, and changing the law on this leaves women and girls extremely vulnerable.
This film of Karen Ingala Smith in Leeds sums up the issues with specific reference to how difficult this will be for women in refuges.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldBKo6F6S2MM_

Also of grave concern is the rate at which the numbers of children identifying as transgender is increasing. There has been an increase of 1000% in children referred to the Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years. Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves itself in about 80% of cases, but most children who start on puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones at age 16, leaving them infertile. Very few of these children come off the path of increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start.
Very well funded lobby groups such as Mermaids and Gendered Intellingence are helping to roll out advise packs to schools which actively encourage children to identify as transgender.
This video of a talk by Michele Moore a couple of weeks ago in Sheffield is well worth listening to.

8_ Incidentally both of these meetings were shut down by Transgender Rights Activists and had to be held in local pubs. Which leads me on to my next point. I really do hope that no one thinks that what I have posted here amounts to transphobia or bigotry. That would be so far removed from my views. I firmly believe that transgender people should be able to live freely and without fear or negative judgement. I do however want this debate to be opened up so we can discuss it freely. Please do comment below as I am very interested in what people think.

here is a link to the government consultation https://consult.education.gov.uk/government-equalities-office/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act/consultation/introo_//_
Here is a guide to filling it in https://womansplaceuk.org/wpuk-guidance-on-gra-consultation/#guidancee_

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FekkoTheLawyer · 08/10/2018 19:49

What's that again? (Sneaky bump)

whereisthatpenguinfrom · 08/10/2018 19:54

Predatory men will go to great lengths to access women and children, and changing the law on this leaves women and girls extremely vulnerable.

this

PositiveVibez · 08/10/2018 20:13

Transgender people Anyone will be able to fill in a form online which will enable them to self identify as their chosen gender.

PositiveVibez · 08/10/2018 20:16

Predatory men will go to great lengths to access women and children, and changing the law on this leaves women and girls extremely vulnerable

It is terrifying. And the fact that anyone who tries to bring this up is bullied, accused of being a transphobic or a TERF, in unfair in the extreme.

NotZenEnough · 08/10/2018 20:32

Yes, good point positivevibez Anyone, not just transgender people.

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Bisquitine · 08/10/2018 23:17

Thanks for this. I've filled the form in and just been puzzling over how to post on Facebook without inviting negative comments. I've paraphrased it so here goes.

ArkeNOTen · 08/10/2018 23:24

I think all that’s great. But... I think that there a many many people out there who just don’t read more than a paragraph... ever. Especially on social media.

I’m struggling with finding a way to get all those points across and explain how I’m feeling myself about the ‘scales falling front the eyes’ I’ve seen on here especially over the last few weeks. I think each point needs addressing separately

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