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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I have had enough now so this is what I have done. A lurker speaks!

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nottakingthisanymore · 07/10/2018 17:51

Hello all. I was a member for years - left because of geoff, waited over a year and just read but not registered. I then reached peak trans. I rejoined. There was another data breach so I left again. Still continued to read and get angry. There is a limit to what I can do but I have just lost it this weekend with my anger. Green party calling the police was probably the last straw.
Anyway - I have finally done something. Because of reasons we are all aware of I have to be cautious. Firstly I contacted my mum. Explained it and she's horrified. She has filled in the consultation. Took the very brave step of messaging my sister about it. Poured it all out in a message to her and expected her to ignore me. She didn't and she has filled out the consultation. Her husband has too. She is the last person on the planet who would ever do anything like this. So then I approached MIL. She got it after I directed her to fair play for women. FIL is filling it in too.She has filled in the consultation. I have now approached one work colleague who seems on side but has yet to do the consultation. I think she will though and her husband to. Obviously DH has done it. My point is that I have managed to get 6 people to fill in the consultation and have got a potential two more to do it. I know it's not much but if all of us who haven't been brave enough before did this then perhaps it will help.

I go from fired up confidence to beating this to actually sobbing in despair when I think about the future. I can not be as eloquent as the ladies on here and I probably won't ever put my point across as well as them but I just wanted to say that people ARE reading this board and ARE doing stuff. I truly believe the support for us is there. When I approached my sister and MIL they got it straight away. Most people agree with us they just don't know what is going on right under their nose.
Sorry this is rambling. I am going to do more. I am going to email my MP tonight. And next time there is a meeting near me I am going to go. Oh and just as an extra point. The very first thing I did was to like on facebook fairplay for women and women's place. My thinking was that this would show up on my friends news feeds and might make them click the link. I see it as sort of indirectly saying - i support this. I thought if things got ugly I could basically say that I had just liked it and I would check it out a bit more. I did this several weeks ago. No negative comeback yet and actually saw one of my friends has also liked fair play for women - so it's just a thought for those of you thinking about trying to go public as it were.

no males. no lies. no compromise.

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OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/10/2018 06:04

Well done OP.

IdaBWells · 08/10/2018 06:40

Thank you OP for stepping out and taking a risk, you are amazing. I have also reached out to two friends that had no idea what was going on and are both filling out the consultation, I am still working on mine. I need to tell more people myself.

How many days left???

KatVonGulag · 08/10/2018 07:38

I've found the best way of avoiding the woke stasi is to chat to people individually.

Well done op

ChattyLion · 08/10/2018 08:02

Great work OP.

GulagsMyArse · 08/10/2018 10:42

That's so encouraging. I've got one to all it out so far and I've got some reminders to do for people who are concerned and said they would do it.

Ill keep on, I'm doing leaflets in loos etc.

nottakingthisanymore · 09/10/2018 13:32

Thanks for the kind comments everyone.

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WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 09/10/2018 14:22

Well done OP. We all have to do our bit. I'm not comfortable leafletting out on the streets but happy to educate family and friends. Have persuaded 6 family members and 5 friends of the necessity of completing the consultation so far.

Oh and me and DD did a few days of stickering over the summer hols!

BlooperReel · 09/10/2018 14:30

I'm awaiting some 'adult human female' stickers, ahve emailed my MP and sponsored some postcards to MP's via Posie Parkers site.

I've also shared the 'dick goes boldly' video on my Social media.

Small steps, but hopefully raised/raising some awareness.

Well done OP, if we all do similar, the ripple effect will reach women everywhere.

Auldspinster · 09/10/2018 14:35

I peaktransed my boyfriend, it took a while but finally sank in. My mother and friends are horrified too. Unfortunately we're in Scotland so the Scottish gov consultation has already passed.

DragonGoby · 09/10/2018 15:37

I’ve completed the consultation and DH has done it too. And I’ve asked both my parents to do it too. So that’s four Smile

Also, I’ve had a link to the survey sent to me by email by one friend, and seen it posted on Facebook by two others.

dragongirlx · 09/10/2018 16:21

I have filled in the consultation as have both my sisters. I have been trying to explain to people at work but its challenging as I work for a local authority that seems to have drunk the koolaid. They still list sex as a protected characteristic but now use gender for just about everything including the staff survey.

This thread and the wonderful OP have inspired me to do more so this afternoon I put some of the Forwomen.scot leaflets in the canteen and cafe and pinned them up on some of the notice boards.

NailsDoneHairDoneEverythingDid · 09/10/2018 18:37

I was a lurker on here. (Nc’d so as not to out myself).

At first, I thought ”live and let live, they're not hurting anyone...” Then I started reading stuff and getting more and more incredulous. Today I saw the link to the easy way to fill out the consultation. I did it. I started explaining to my sister why she should do it. She’d never heard of any of it. She asked me, ”but why isn't it on the news?” I don’t really know why. Does nobody care? Is it not newsworthy?

I shared a link to the consultation on fb. Nobody except my sister has liked it. Either they don't care or don't understand, or don't believe it could happen.

I explained it to my mother, who said ”it’ll never happen.” I told her how it could, and if it does, what will happen if she goes for a medical appointment with a female hcp and its a TW. The nurse who does the smear test. The x-ray technician that does mammograms... Now she gets it.

I need to explain it to my sil. I've seen her like and share posts about Stephanie Hirst. I’m afraid to get into an argument with her, but on the other hand, I feel like I need to tell everyone I know.

Noqont · 09/10/2018 18:47

Well done op.

Ready made response here for anyone short of time to fill in the consultation, (and if they agree with the comments of course). Not sure if it's allowed or not, but delete it if it isnt Mumsnet.

fairplayforwomen.com/email/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

HermioneWeasley · 09/10/2018 18:53

Brilliant, well done and thank you

Courage calls to courage

Racecardriver · 09/10/2018 19:01

Can I ask what the point is? Reading the consultation document I got the impression that the intention was to change the GR process with the aim of making it less onerous. Is there any point in responding if I think that the current procedure is appropriate?

ShimmyShimmyYa · 09/10/2018 19:32

Noquont
that link is EXCELLEtoNT!!
Great way to offer people an easier way to respond and great as a template if one wants to paraphrase/ make it a bit more bespoke!
Thank you.

HermioneWeasley · 09/10/2018 19:55

Racecardriver

If you think the current process is fine and you don’t want self ID then you absolutely must fill in the consultation and say so and why

Guidance on the im0lications at www.fairplayforwomen.com

Noqont · 09/10/2018 20:21

It's fab isn't it Shimmy. Glad it's still here. Copy it and share it everywhere you can. Just takes 30 seconds to get it done.

Biologicalreality · 12/10/2018 18:17

You fired me up! This week I have written again to my MP, went to see him, and found he is gender critical :). I have also sent a link to the consultation to family members, and brought it up twice at professional dinners. Going to talk to friends about it at the weekend. Thank you for inspiring me!

nottakingthisanymore · 12/10/2018 18:23

Yay that’s great!

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Polynerd · 12/10/2018 19:03

Good work! I have been quietly messaging my friends about this too, none of them knew much about it but they all agreed with me straight away.

6SpringCats · 12/10/2018 19:17

Thanks for the ready made response. Just done it.

MeganChips · 12/10/2018 19:41

Thanks OP, you just inspired me to like the Fair play for Women Facebook page instead of just quietly following on Twitter.

Next step is to change my background picture to the Adult Human Female poster.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 12/10/2018 20:33

That's amazing OP well done. And I thought your post was very articulate and well worded so I'm not surprised you have been able to help others understand this potential disaster for what it is!

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