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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Impact of self-ID on women's rights at work

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HawkeyeInConfusion · 07/10/2018 10:31

I was musing about how self-ID will affect women's rights specifically at work (as opposed to the miriad of ways it will affect women generally).

I can see a couple of obvious ways:

  • late transitioning males suddenly being included as female in gender pay gap calculations could make it appear that the gap is closing when it isn't for natal females. And future stats gathering on this being meaningless
  • the drive to increase the number of women on boards could be met by trans women - again not benefitting natal women and making future data gathering meaningless

Would it affect other rights and how? Maternity leave? Breastfeeding provision? Sex discrimination?

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bd67th · 07/10/2018 13:57

Pregnancy is a separate characteristic under EA2010 so pregnancy rights are unlikely to be directly affected. However...

Hire a TW and you've hired a "woman" for diversity stats but avoided ever paying maternity pay or hiring maternity cover. This will absolutely be to the detriment of natal women.

EmilieDuChatelet · 07/10/2018 15:10

I agree with you both. Both situations undo a lot of progress for natal women. It's these instances which make me boggle that no-one advising political parties, government or policy making groups has done any proper work on understanding what the changes in the law might mean.

HawkeyeInConfusion · 07/10/2018 15:50

Thanks.

Good point about getting the diversity brownie points without risking maternity costs/disruption. Because there are still (mainly male) bosses who don't like recruiting women of childbearing age.

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HawkeyeInConfusion · 07/10/2018 15:53

I am thinking about the unions (despite their fucking betrayal of women at the TUC last month). Unions have great pride in having fought for women's rights in the workplace. It feels like a good angle to approach them with.

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ScreamingBird · 07/10/2018 16:39

Emilie
The fact that they offered a referendum about the EU without doing any impact assessments shows that we are led by ideologically driven imbeciles. I'm sadly unshocked by their lack of joined up thinking on this.

EmilieDuChatelet · 07/10/2018 22:17

Good point ScreamingBird. I boggle at the EU referendum/Brexit shitstorm as well. I think I need to get out more....

HawkeyeInConfusion · 07/10/2018 22:46

I think the whole 'no impact assessment, no due diligence' thing kicked off with the invasion of Iraq.

But I do wonder what impact assessments the various unions did before they won their woke points by voting in favour of self-ID at the TUC. Surely they don't vote on things of such society-changing importance based on just gut feel?

I want to know how they assessed it and how they came to the conclusion they did. Because they must have concluded that women's employment rights wouldn't be affected. How did they conclude that.

And I'm not naïve. I'm pretty sure none of them did any impact assessment. And I'm not sure which is worse - that they weren't bright enough to see the risk, that they saw the risk but couldn't be bothered to assess it, or they saw the risk, assessed it but then decided that they didn't care about their female members.

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