Three transgender soldiers in same barracks?

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I have just read this article in the DM (so sorry if this paper is not allowed here) I am the friend of one of the mum's of the people named. I feel really naive but is that not a really strange situation? Three people in one close place?

Its fine to link an article:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6247957/THREE-soldiers-Army-base-born-male-change-gender.html

I find it strange. I wonder if anyone has looked into the figures of military particularly ex military personnel transitioning.

I’ve seen a few transwomen boasting of military experience online. “Yeah I’m ex special forces love to see you kick me out of the ladies”. Bravado? Maybe. But don’t forget Chelsea Manning and IIRC there was a transwoman who was doxxing women in a Facebook group and posting photos of their children who also claimed to be ex military. PTSD?

The MOD doesn't have a definition of "woman" so idk how they can count them in any case.

I wonder if it’s the pressure of having to be so “masculine”, which leads some men to abandon manhood for what they see as an easier option?

Or possibly aggressive narcissists find military life attractive?

Or men who fear they are not living up to social expectations as being sufficiently “manly”, see military life as a way of reinforcing the masculinity.

Charlotte Clymer, who was in that astonishingly annoying documentary about Clymer’s transition, is apparently ex-military.

I suspect there are a lot more men who claim to have been in the SAS than were ever actually in it!

I know one theory is that people who are trans often go through a (protracted) period of feeling that how they are is so socially unacceptable, they try to fit in with society by desperately picking the most hyper-masculine occupations they can to prove they're "normal." On this theory, the high percentage of transwomen with ex-military backgrounds is a form of internalised transphobia.

(Alteratively, it could be that people who conceptualise their personalities as "trans" could be those from backgrounds where their parents saw the world in highly gendered - old fashioned meaning thereof - terms, and wouldn't let them play with dolls' houses/toy kitchens/ etc., and they tried to garner parental approval by going for hyper-masculine occupations, before flipping and coming to the opposite extreme position, namely, that the only way they were "allowed" to express their personality was to transition.)

Thank you for answering. This is the only place I thought I could ask.

Sophie Cook (Labour candidate and was on All Women Shortlist) was an engineer in the RAF.

Fermats Theorem.

Yeah I think that’s quite possible. Just my observation but, at least online, a lot seem to be ex US military. I think we all have seen what a nightmare US healthcare is. Their vets have a high percentage of suicide and homelessness.

Interesting that it says they’ve been given seperate sleeping quarters, I take that to mean not put in the Female barracks?

I know that the Women on a RN ship were told they had to accept a male bodied TW officer in their showers when they complained about it.

I think the article makes it sound like a "virus"

I have noticed a pattern of having attended an all-boys school in a lot of late transitioners.

Their parents seem to have had conservative, traditional expectations about the rigid role of men and women in life. The Church seems to figure quite prominently in some of them.

Late transitioners seem to be almost exclusively male. And almost exclusively middle class. And almost exclusively white. And been married to women and have had children.

Be an interesting PhD there for someone.

Popchyk

Good grief don’t tell me that 🤦🏼‍♀️ . Mine are at an all boys school (for High School). Catholic one too. Although we are not Catholic. All atheists and we’re pretty laidback as parents so that’s something I guess.

Think I’m going to think happy thoughts, drink some wine and singalong to Pitch Perfect 3. Night Ladies.