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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mathew Parris: Maybe Treatment of Trans People is Our Generation’s Blindspot

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Redkeyboard · 06/10/2018 07:36

Interesting column. Also includes this paragraph:

On the facts and the rationalities I’m with my brave Times colleague Janice Turner, whose journalism I much respect. I don’t think women can have penises; don’t think anybody in any field is free to categorise themselves without reference to how others would describe them; I do think women who want “women-only” places have a right for their fears to be heard; and I do think that, changing gender being so important a step and so hard to reverse, we should give deep thought to how fast and how early in life a person should do this.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/prejudice-will-never-be-a-thing-of-the-past-qbft3z07f

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PierreBezukov · 06/10/2018 10:24

Matthew Parris can be quite wishy washy and (if it's not a contradiction) authoritarian in his instincts - look at his Brexit stance.

I remember reading in his autobiography how he stood by while a female friend was raped. He felt terrible about it but didn't quite seem to have the courage then, or now.

Needmoresleep · 06/10/2018 10:30

It is a very male-centric view and he forgets to mention that women in the FCO in the 80's also had a very tough time.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 06/10/2018 10:47

Do the rest of us have any idea of the invisible cage that gender makes around us all?

I can see others have picked up on this but I feel it needs recognising again.

YES, Matthew. Every single woman knows EXACTLY what it feels like.

DRS!

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 06/10/2018 10:48

My autocorrect doesn't like FFS.

happydappy2 · 06/10/2018 10:56

Another times article where comments are taking far too long to load.

scepticalwoman · 06/10/2018 10:59

The comments are loading - very slowly so they're evidently being well monitored.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2018 11:08

'Cartimunda' has of course turned up...
'Trans people are actively attacked/beaten/ murdered for being trans. They don't have to have a "feeling " about it.
Sending a trans person into a mens loo dressed as a female is sending them into harms way.'

There's an obvious response to that...

pennydrew · 06/10/2018 11:16

Wave777 I thought the same thing.

YES women do know what it’s like to be caged by gender ffs.

ONLY women know what it’s like being controlled and oppressed because of our BIOLOGY. We’re walking wombs don’t you know

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 06/10/2018 11:18

There's an obvious response to that...

Isn't there just.

vaginafetishist · 06/10/2018 11:46

FlowerpotFairyHouse I thought you were railing against Drs Harrop and Webberley!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 06/10/2018 12:51

The whole basis of the feminist objection to transactivism is that the aim of genderist ideology is to force us all back into our gender cages and weld the doors shut.

Starkstaring · 06/10/2018 12:56

It needs to be acknowledged that it takes an awful lot of strength and resilience to go against gender stereotypes.

When was the last time you saw a GNC woman on mainstream media, without it being for that reason. I never have.

WanderinWomb · 08/10/2018 18:07

What a pile of piffle Mr Parris.

He admits to being so lacking empathy (because he is white) that he missed the institutional racism all around him, he noticed homophobia because that's re him, himself. Me me, me, me. What affects Matthew matters.

He now says he understands as he has been educated on racism and the struggles of trans people.
This is classic Stonewall training graduate talk. Question not transgenderism or be like a racist homophobe. We've seen this a million times, this article is just written with a gentler voice.

He seems to have not developed any empathy for women though. Janice Turner is allowed to speak apparently. It would do him good to actually listen..

VickyEadie · 08/10/2018 19:13

here's an obvious response to that...

Ooh, is it 'dress like VickieEadie and countless other women, who rarely if ever feel the need to wear stereotypical 'women's' clothing, make-up, nail polish or shoes' and then you can use the men's bogs as you did for your whole life?

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