'If we see anything, we're calling the police'

[Estellesylvia]

Who 'we' are and what 'anything' means is unclear.

I actually find this campaign a bit sinister behind its virtue signalling wokeness.

And I don't know what they hope to achieve. No racist, bigot or homophobe is going to watch this and stop being a racist, bigot or homophobe.

Also notable is the fact that 'women' are absent from the campaign.

mobile.twitter.com/TheLeith/status/1048247326198943746

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3385655-Scottish-Govt-Police-ad-in-Metro-Dear-transphobes

The other thread about this, where it's pointed out that these adverts relates to most other protected characteristics, apart from sex. So there's no 'Dear Misogynists" poster

Apart from anything else, there's no "Dear Misogynists" poster because it would underline how ridiculous the campaign is. Let's take the most misogynist act of all, rape - a clear act of genuine literal violence, not pretend "literal violence". We all know what happens with that when you report - most of the time (well over 90%) sweet fuck all.

We're watching this play out on the media screens of the world right now with the supreme court. Not only is society going to fail to investigate the women's complaints (the scope of the five day long FBI investigation didn't even extend to interviewing the complainants), society is going to give this man the power to remove women's right to legal abortion.

That person with the mop on their head. What are they representing? Or are these just random people?

It is a bit odd that as I understand it racial hate crime is something like 100x more common than transphobic hate crime, but they somehow manage to centre transphobia, and only one out of five people there is an ethnic minority.

Fermats It's chilling.

But hey, Ruth Langford thinks it's a fantastic time to be a woman.

Langton?

Like the Hitler Youth

The whole thing is so similar to Nazi tactics... The video to get little kids to fill out the GRA consultation was shocking, the "be a hero" line is exactly the kind of thing that was used to groom kids into the hitler youth.

Rewards.

Remember they are more of a danger to us than we are to them, report jews phobes.

On a slightly tangential note, being lectured and threatened for something you haven't done is upsetting and counter productive.

DS and I have been doing secondary school tours this week. One had been thoroughly "Stonewalled" and was full of posters saying "Some people are gay. Get over it."

DS was simultaneously puzzled (because we have many gay friends and because his current school has a very robust anti-nuke get policy( but also felt slightly "got at" - kind of "why are those posters shouting at me so aggressively for a line of thought I've never even entertained."

I suppose it's a question of how the phrasing selects its audience.

"Only losers have a problem with gay people." Vs "I know you're all homophobes whether you admit it or not and I'm here to re-educate you."

Whoa that's one of the weirder autocorrects my phone's come up with.

Anti bullying policy

If we see anything, we're reporting you to the police. Then you'll turn on each other. BIGOT!

It has the same feel to it as those people on Twitter like Sprout or Harrop who you can tell are just itching for a fight. Like you're just walking around Edinburgh or whatever and it seems normal but there are these mad bastards hiding out in the crowd ready to bring callout culture to the local supermarket.

Very much of a piece with the whole send feminists to gulags thing - these are people who read Wild Swans or The Gulag Archipeligo and thought they were how-to guides.

Yeah, that slogan works really well if you are autistic. Permanently on the phone to the police unless I am asleep. I can see things now, the phone, the duvet... Etc etc.

Such a disablist poster excluding autistic people.

DS was simultaneously puzzled (because we have many gay friends and because his current school has a very robust anti-bullying get policy( but also felt slightly "got at" - kind of "why are those posters shouting at me so aggressively for a line of thought I've never even entertained."

I agree. I have always thought the "get over it" tag was unnecessarily aggressive and missed the target.

Wow that was quite a scary video. These are the intolerant fanatics of the young generation. It makes me wonder what the young fanatics will be like in twenty years. Will there be a backlash against identity politics and genderism? Might the next generation be fascists?

When the whole hate crime thing was brought in there was a lot of pointing out, slowly in small words, that this was where it would inevitably go. But like the café culture that would stop late night drinking, violence and the police burden of drunkenness, and Brexit where everyone would definitely vote stay, the government said they knew best.

You'd think MPs would be starting to catch on.

Another question for any MPs wandering through here: is this what the police are for?

How is this going to go down with the electorate?

Do you think the man on the Clapham omnibus is going to prefer his taxes to go on police responding to his burglary and car theft, or on finding and telling off a middle aged woman pointing out biological reality on Twitter?

we need to make some identical ones about misogyny, fascism, and authoritarianism. With the sarcasm level x1000. sign them something else, to make it clear that ours are from a more sensible group and place them right next to the Hitler Youth ones.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3386612-Police-called-to-Green-Party-Conference

Some body did call the police on these three women handing out leaflets. Luckily the lovely police horse they sent is very intelligent

It's also just bullshit.

Police are vastly underfunded and round here can barely staff shifts as it is. One hefty "domestic" can take out the region's force for a couple of hours.

That film was fucking terrifying in its tone. Like something out of Black Mirror.

I agree with the comments that you can see how it happened in the 1930s.
It is something i have been thinking about as I am a single parent with a professional job and sole financial responsibility for DC. How much do I speak out? And if I do not speak out, am I complicit?
The silencing of alternative views (i.e the current law and the centuries old meaning of women) is scary.

Meanwhile girls are sexually harassed and assaulted in Scotland and the police do nothing

www.heraldscotland.com/news/16966126.my-daughter-was-the-victim-of-a-sex-crime-this-is-how-the-scottish-justice-system-failed-her/

The Leith Police dissmissith us

I hope Neil McKay takes this further.

Sigh...DH has done work for the Leith Agency many times over the years, generally a reasonably sensible bunch, for an ad agency, but it's not surprising they have worked on this campaign, campaigns for public bodies are the bread and butter of the Scottish ad sector, and help you win industry awards. Dh has worked on many campaigns that spend public money lecturing everyone on the bleeding obvious!
One of the issues with the Scottish Government is that they are full time politicians without the workload of Westminster MPs, sometimes this is good and they can be very accessible for constituents but it means they also have time to meet with and be "educated" by pressure groups...

That story - so, if a sex offender is mentally ill, the police just drop the case and let him go about his business? And if he continues to offend, then what? Oh, he's not well, nothing can be done?

I think campaigns are to government departments what projects that have a public plaque unveiling are to councillors, something media friendly with a nice neat and tidy pricetag that can be delegated to others to sort out... whether they do any good is another matter but they do look good on a CV.