Spectator podcast —Madeleine Kearnes and India Willoughby

[MuseumofInnocence]

For Those who Access podcasts, this week there is a debate between IW and Madeleine Kearns on the Spectator Podcast. It's a joy to listen to IMO as IW just runs around sounding more and more unhinged while MK just makes her point very clearly. Please listen, it's only ten Minutes or so

I love the bit where IW just says "I can't listen to this" and the interviewer immediately asks a question about women just being shut down from debating

I liked that bit too

Oh, yes, I did hope people who listened actually heard someone seriously suggest puberty as an optional idea that could be forced on someone.

Someone should transcribe what IW actually says.

It would be much easier to read what IW says rather than having to listen.

Good to know IW is fully promoting Mermaids Charity.

IW 'what is your interest, what is your motivation?'

MK 'Child welfare'

India Willoughby on Mumsnet:
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/04/24/india-willoughby-transphobia-opinion-worried-for-my-life-mumsnet/

What's this hormone levels affect gender in the brain thing? When did we all decide gender was innate? I'd really love to get a breakdown of the "gender area" of our brains. Doesn't make much sense considering gender has different expectations depending on what time and place you're in.

Just listened to this - although I almost couldn't because IW was so incredibly patronising. I love Katy Balls (the host) and reckon she is secretly GC.