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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:09

Shock
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FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:11

Who is this?

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:12

Oh bloody hell. Suicides stats bingo.

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:12

Should schools refer to SS if they don't agree with their child's choice of gender. Quoting Stonewall already. 5 minutes in.

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ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:13

Somebody from Brighton and Hove.

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FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:13

ShockShock

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:14

Take the child into care or they will commit suicide if not allowed to wear a skirt to school.Confused

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FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:14

"I'm not a safeguarding expert"

No bloody kidding.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:15

Conflation of gay/trans again.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:15

What a load of waffly shite.

Enterthewolves · 05/10/2018 14:15

Was the Brighton & Hove person from the council or just a resident?

Enterthewolves · 05/10/2018 14:16

Oh Emma bloody Daniels - total ruddy nightmare - koolaid drinker!

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:16

From an inclusion committe local council. Emma something.

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ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:19

Hope Shelagh Fogarty asks some sensible questions. She seems to be nodding along with Emma Daniels atm.

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R0wantrees · 05/10/2018 14:21

Telgraph article:
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"Parents who refuse to let their son wear a skirt to school may need to be referred to social services, a council’s guidance has advised schools.

Mothers and fathers who dismiss a “gender questioning” child’s requests to change their name could also be a trigger for concern, according to Brighton and Hove City Council’s “Trans Inclusion Schools Toolkit”.

It comes after warnings that schools are "sowing confusion" in children's minds by over-promoting transgender issues, and that children are being encouraged to “unlearn” the difference between boys and girls.

The guidance advises teachers on how to handle a number of different scenarios, including if parents say: “I refuse to allow my son to change his name or wear skirts”.

Schools are advised that some parents may “struggle” to accept their child’s gender identity and it may be a long time before they accept the change.

“If a setting has a significant concern about the child’s wellbeing and or safety in relation to how the parents or carers are managing the exploration of the child’s gender identity it may be necessary and advisable to follow safeguarding procedures,” schools are told.

Schools are advised that some parents may “struggle” to accept their child’s gender identity
Schools are advised that some parents may “struggle” to accept their child’s gender identity
The Department for Education (DfE)’s statutory guidance on safeguarding says that staff with concerns about a child must alert the school’s safeguarding lead, and if necessary contact social services or the police.

Another scenario outlined in Brighton and Hove City Council’s guidance document is parents who contact the school to ask: “My daughter doesn’t want a boy changing next to her, what if he looks at her body?”

It explains that in such a case, “it would not be appropriate to remove the trans pupil from the changing rooms”.

Instead, the school should focus on increasing their “training and awareness raising” to ensure that all pupils understand that a transgender girls is a “real girl”.

The guidance document, now in its third edition, was produced by Allsorts Youth Project, " (continues)

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/10/04/parents-wont-let-son-wear-skirt-may-have-referred-social-services/

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:22

Comments from pro-transing kids people so far.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:23

Confused male calling in suggesting it's all perverts. Not helpful.

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 14:24

Oh Shelagh. I used to think you were sensible.Sad

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R0wantrees · 05/10/2018 14:25

"I'm not a safeguarding expert"

No, and its very apparent that those who have written, sporting, guiding, educational, prison, ward, social care policies promoting 'trans-inclusion' have any meaningful understanding or experience of working within Child Protection and Safeguarding frameworks.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 14:27

Second caller mentions detransition.

R0wantrees · 05/10/2018 14:28

apologies, there's an important don't missing in my last post!

No, and its very apparent that those who have written, sporting, guiding, educational, prison, ward, social care policies promoting 'trans-inclusion' don't have any meaningful understanding or experience of working within Child Protection and Safeguarding frameworks.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 15:29

Anyone still listening?

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 15:47

Anyone?

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 16:47

I thought it was very disjointed as various other topics and fundraising stuff were interspersed with calls.
However I am ill and fell asleep towards the end. I did try to listen to it all.

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FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 16:55

How do you think the parents who called in came across?

ParisProperty · 05/10/2018 17:12

The mother I heard said she found the school very helpful.
Another parent said their child had been confused about their gender but came through it and was happy with their birth sex.
I was irritated by the constant use of "gender assigned" at birth.
I am feeling quite poorly and will have to listen again when I feel better.
I only caught the programme as I have been occupying the sofa all day. Sorry. Not helpful I know.

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