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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Civil Service Departments’ People Survey

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FeelSoCheatedByMyEmployer · 05/10/2018 07:40

For anyone who works in the civil service please consider contacting your department’s HR to make representations on the use of “gender identity” rather than “sex” on the pages on discrimination and also at the end for equalities monitoring purposes.

In 2017, the same questions were asked about “gender identity” and “gender identity matching with assignment at birth.”

I’ve asked my HR dept to explain how this impacts the data on monitoring progress on eliminating ‘sex based discrimination’ as it it only sex that is a protected characteristic under the EQA 2010 at s.4.

My employer has a huge pay gap between males and females above HO, which is compounded and perpetuated by the lack of pay progression. Also more women are in junior grades (but admittedly are at the top of the scales because they’ve either been stuck in junior grades by a variety of reasons, which includes personal choice).

I’m hopping mad about this. I was last year but didn’t get anywhere. The difference is this year that I’ve banded together with other women in my department to ask this same question.

HR have told me that they will refer this to the Cabinet Office who are responsible for the People Survey. If others escalate across the CS then they have to hear our concerns.

The CS is an inclusive employer. They didn’t need to take this step to make everyone feel included. By doing so they’ve made me feel the CS doesn’t recognise my rights as a woman.

I’ve deliberately avoided my union as my union backs TWAW blindly. I’m seriously considering leaving the union after the TUC vote.

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Redkeyboard · 05/10/2018 07:52

Thanks feel

Have you looked at WPUK letter to your Union? They think it’s worth fighting for their movement.

Iused2BanOptimist · 05/10/2018 07:59

I've filled in my NHS survey. Crossed out gender and wrote that should only be recording sex as gender is a social construct and will render statistics inaccurate.

FeelSoCheatedByMyEmployer · 05/10/2018 08:36

Unfortunately it’s online only.

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FeelSoCheatedByMyEmployer · 06/10/2018 09:22

Bumping for the weekend crowd.

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feministcivilservant · 10/10/2018 18:11

I started another thread about this as I didn't realise there was one already.

HR have told me that they will refer this to the Cabinet Office who are responsible for the People Survey. If others escalate across the CS then they have to hear our concerns.

I had the same response when I went to my HR about it. Hopefully they're seeing a few complaints.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 10/10/2018 18:48

Gender pay gap is calculated based on gender id.

So if things carry on at this rate those stats will be totally meaningless anyway (and the pay gap will mysteriously have shrunk so they will say well look it doesn't matter anyway things are fine).

NothingOnTellyAgain · 10/10/2018 18:50

They should be recording sex

and

Gender ID

These are both protected and valid for measuring their D&I stats progress etc.

Just recording gender ID means they aren't fussed about protected characteristic of sex > which in this context usually means women under represented at higher pay bands and so on.

This is all a gift for sexist employers though isn't it.

Definitelynotme · 10/10/2018 19:10

I have also complained and my message has been forwarded to Cabinet office. I have encouraged others, including my director to do the same, I believe he has.

Siun · 10/10/2018 19:15

I agree with @Iusedtobanoptimist. This is the truth.

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 11/10/2018 21:21

Do you think your HR has weight? Mine in limp but I know a bolshy (male) director. Wondering about knobbling him instead...

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 11/10/2018 21:21

in = are

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