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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Five-year-old girl assaulted by gender-fluid child in toilet

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RealGhouls · 04/10/2018 23:31

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6241723/School-toilet-policy-investigation-girl-five-molested-gender-fluid-student.html

There's a video in the article also found here:

The city where it took place is Decatur, Georgia, a suburb essentially of an Atlanta. Decatur is a posh part, 74% white, much whiter than the Atlanta metro area as a whole.

There is a post on the local newspaper essentially saying this didn't happen, omg we're so progressive here, how dare people say something like this happened, because we all know 'this never happens'.

www.facebook.com/Decaturish/posts/2189634397775237

Mr. Whisenhunt [sic] says it didn't happen and the parents are anonymous cowards, even though they're on video above.

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RealGhouls · 04/10/2018 23:39

Top comment on FB:

Susan McNeel Camp: Decatur is becoming the new Buckhead and I couldn’t be more disappointed. [Buckhead is another white suburb of Atlanta, probably richer]
Lena Kotler-Wallace: THIS
Odufa Ojior Aburime: can you elaborate?
Susan McNeel Camp: Conservative, wealthy, entitled families moving in. It’s reshaping the progressive culture, community dynamic, and socio-economic makeup of the city, basically everything that I loved about this town.

A black child is assaulted in the bathroom and this white lady is most concerned that her neighbourhood is no longer the progressive (white, Democratic) idyll she dreamed of. FML.

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RealGhouls · 04/10/2018 23:42

What the actual fuck is wrong with people when their response to this story is 'well my neighbourhood isn't the glorious white liberal transgender-five-year-old-inclusive paradise I'd dreamed of'

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RealGhouls · 05/10/2018 15:23

So this is the complaint

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"On Nov. 16, 2017, Pascha Thomas’s five-year-old daughter “N.T.” told her that she had recently been
sexually assaulted in the girls’ restroom at Oakhurst Elementary School in Decatur, Georgia. While N.T. was in the
restroom, her teacher dismissed another child—a boy who has been identified to the school as “gender fluid”—to use the
restroom per Decatur City Schools’ transgender restroom policy. Tragically, the boy sexually assaulted N.T. while in the
girls’ restroom.

Pascha reported the assault to school authorities, but the school refused to correct the situation or take steps to prevent
future incidents: The school refused to change its policy. The school refused to remove the boy from N.T.’s classroom.
The school refused to assure Pascha that the girls’ restroom would be reserved in the future for girls’ use only. Pascha had
to remove her daughter from the school for N.T.’s emotional and physical safety.
"

It does seem to me that the woke folk are more concerned that their city is not 'safe' for gender-fluid children to express their gender fluidity than about sexual abuse.

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RealGhouls · 05/10/2018 15:25

And I would add that there is no difference between a Democrat saying 'this is those beastly Christian bigots, it's fake', and the Republicans saying the same about Christine Ford.

The woman/child being assaulted is collateral damage in a political war.

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VickyEadie · 05/10/2018 15:25

Another day, another 'this never happens' story, eh?

HermioneWeasley · 05/10/2018 15:39

When they say “this never happens” they mean “we don’t care that it happens”

MynameisJune · 05/10/2018 15:41

I would put money on this little boy being white and rich. I can only imagine what his home life is like if he’s picking up ideas like this at 5 years old.

123bananas · 05/10/2018 15:43

That poor child.

In my kids school the mixed sex toilets are in the area of the classrooms just off to the side. At a similar age to this girl both dd1 and dd2 were touched inappropriately in their genital area by girl and boy respectively. I have also known of boys that age touching other boys inappropriately too. Inappropriate touching in a young child might indicate that they have been a victim of abuse themselves. I would also be worried about the perpertrator child in this case.

That is why the NSPCC pants rule and talks about personal space are so important even with young children.

It is also why people should be aware of the way children behave around their body and others bodies at different ages. Good link www.parentsprotect.co.uk.

rainingcatsanddog · 05/10/2018 15:46

This event should have led to the school rethinking their policy and allocating a third space not punishing the victim. Did the school contact Children's Services and find out what's going on at the gender-fluid child's home?

Flashingbeacon · 05/10/2018 15:56

I don’t understand. Surely if you are a woke liberal you don’t care what the perpetrator are? You say this small girl has been assaulted and that’s awful. The gender fluid child needs to be punished and rehabilitated. Why is it a get out of jail free card? If the perpetrator had been a girl or another gender fluid child attacked would there be a solution there. The gender issue gets in the way of keeping children and women safe. I just don’t understand.

123bananas · 05/10/2018 16:05

A child of this age doesn't get punished and rehabilitated flashingbeacon, the perpertrator is also 5 years old and unlikely to fully understand the wider ramifications of what they have done. The child would be spoken to and possibly also their parent/carer, it should be referred to safeguarding (but the school would never reveal that due to child protection issues).

RealGhouls · 05/10/2018 16:06

No, Flashingbeacon the important thing if you are a woke liberal is that you live in a woke liberal area with woke liberal policies. Not like those redneck bigots in North Carolina, say.

Women & children's safety isn't important at all. Not even a little bit.

A further conversation between two ladies on the Decaturish site about this incident:

Barbara Palumbo "wouldn't what you described be more like Decatur becoming Braselton or Calhoun or Woodstock, though? They're some of the most conservative counties in Georgia. Saying we're the new Buckhead is not a new phrase for Decaturites. It has been said for years, well before even Trump got in. "We're the new Vi-Hi." "We're the new Buckhead." And it makes me cringe because I feel that a large part of the reason we lost the election was because we came off as elitists. We wanted our 1930s-era houses to stay their size and we want our dog park and our liberalism and our advertised intelligence. But how can we call ourselves liberal when we aren't inclusive to people from all different backgrounds? When we turn our noses up to people whose opinions differ from our own? When did we accept homogenization as the norm? Isn't political diversity still diversity?

Again, what this hate group is doing is wrong. But saying and thinking we're the new Buckhead isn't the answer. It just divides us more. If we consider ourselves to be the more intelligent party, then we need to stay intelligent."

Susan McNeel Camp "Barabara Palumbo I appreciate where you are coming from. I agree that our town’s spirit of inclusion should truly extend to all of our residents. For me, it goes beyond politics. I’m a native Georgian. I grew up in Marietta. I went to school in Carrollton. I lived and worked in Buckhead. I lived and worked in Midtown. I never had a sense of true belonging or attachment to my community until I moved to Decatur. Sure, we are the only “blue dot” in a red state and I’ve enjoyed our progressive little bubble since we moved here. However, the entire culture of our city is shifting. Our bungalows are being razed for McMansions. Affordable housing has practically disappeared. Townhome and apartment dwellers are treated “less than.” People are moving here for our good schools and then are pushing their own agendas without due respect for the unique culture and spirit that has made our town so special and wonderful for so many. I think that our culture of inclusion is now at risk because so many people who DON’T share that value are moving in and trying to change Decatur into what they want. I wouldn’t move to Spain and then expect or demand my community to speak English or abandon their customs or way of life to include my American ways.

I’m sorry if my analogy was offensive or cringeworthy to you.
Buckhead or VaHi is fine if that is the culture and lifestyle that suits you. Having lived there, I know it didn’t suit me. So, I don’t want to see this precious gem of a town morph into another super wealthy, conservative community. Metro Atlanta has plenty of those."

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VickyEadie · 05/10/2018 16:07

I still cannot get my head around the notion of declaring a five year old 'gender fluid' - they're ALL fucking "gender fluid" at that age!

RealGhouls · 05/10/2018 16:14

The Decaturish people seem BEYOND angry at the evil, evil Christians pursuing this lawsuit.

"Move out of Decatur. I've lived here my whole life-46 years. Decatur has always been an accepting, open minded, loving community to and for all. Grow up, don't involve your kid in your bigoted agenda. You are literally using your child to spread hate. You should be ashamed of yourselves."

The irony of a bunch of white (they are all white, no exception) people telling a black family to leave town, for being bigoted, in Atlanta of all places, seems to be lost on them.

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RealGhouls · 05/10/2018 16:16

May I just say I hate these 'we must keep our community woke' people. Not because they are terrible people, per se. But because they are CONVINCED they are better people and everyone who disagrees with them is an evil Nazi who deserved it or is lying. They are no better than the Trump crew. Just a different tribe.

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AngryAttackKittens · 05/10/2018 16:19

So mothers should shut up about their daughters being sexually assaulted because it makes people feel like their neighborhood isn't progressive enough?

Facebook destroys my faith in humanity.

FermatsTheorem · 05/10/2018 16:45

And I would add that there is no difference between a Democrat saying 'this is those beastly Christian bigots, it's fake', and the Republicans saying the same about Christine Ford.

The woman/child being assaulted is collateral damage in a political war.

Yes, absolutely.

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