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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie on the Matthew Wright Show

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heresyandwitchcraft · 28/09/2018 01:59

Sorry if this was already on another thread, in case you missed it -

talkradio.co.uk/radio/listen-again/1538049600#

talkradio.co.uk/news/organiser-woman-definition-poster-i-dont-think-changing-sex-actually-possible-18092728114

Posie phoned in! Matthew Wright seems to be onside! And it's a woman who is trying to parrot the idea that this the definition of woman is "transphobic."

Also, the Mumsnet thread to reinstate her got a mention in the article!

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OkMaybeNot · 28/09/2018 11:32

I love you, Matthew Wright.

I thought you were a dick until recently, but mwah

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 28/09/2018 11:56

Matthew Wright handled it well, constantly dragging the contributors back from personalising it to principles, but some of his observations (there was some nonsense about people in family homes sharing lavatories with members of the opposite sex) seem off-key. Is he lobbing stuff like that in because he needs to be seen to try to be neutral?

He used this argument many times in his TV show. When Terry Christian replied "but not at the same time", he looked confused as if he didn't understand Terry's point. I think he sees the stalls as an adequate safety barrier, and thinks women are complaining about having to use the same facilities as men, rather than at the same time.

I think the focus is on 'bathrooms' for a number of reasons, one being as they are seen as somewhere women go in pairs or to do their makeup, so exclusion from loos makes transpeople 'gender refugees' (I've seen this term a few times over the last few weeks and it's appeared on MN recently). So by being excluded from toilets, they are being excluded them from an essential part of a women's life 🤔

Changing the focus to other issue - safeguarding, the need to encourage girls into certain careers is proving difficult, but will need to be tackled eventually, even if tra succeed in removing female loos.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 28/09/2018 11:58

Sorry about my lack of paragraph, I don't know what happened to them.Confused

MnerXX · 28/09/2018 13:24

Really great program - Posie and Matthew made some insightful comments. There wasn't really a decent discussion from the other side other than let's not be mean.

ToeToToe · 28/09/2018 14:47

Gender neutral toilets were sold to us as the solution to all this on the Politics Live show too.

Funny thing about my bathroom at home - it is a lockable room, it does not have gaps at the tops and bottom of the walls/doors, that any old person could stick a mobile phone over (or in my case, their whole head over) and only people I have invited into my home can use it - not any bloke off the street.

MipMipMip · 28/09/2018 21:47

She added: “I think it is certainly provocative and I think the battle – a turf war – going on between radical feminists and trans activists for the public consciousness or the public sympathy.

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