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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Labour unexpectedly drops plan for female co-deputy leader"

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ShotsFired · 26/09/2018 20:50

This seems to have gone largely un-noticed given other things going on, but it just seems like yet another way of diminishing the status and prominence of women within this all-new, all-old misogynistic, mostly stale, pale and male, Labour.

"Labour has unexpectedly shelved plans to create a position for a second, female, deputy leader, a policy backed by the current deputy leader, Tom Watson."

I may just be overly cynical, but can anyone spot the one common thing uniting all the names on the shortlist: "Possible candidates whose names had been floated by MPs included Stella Creasy and Rosena Allin-Khan, as well as the shadow cabinet ministers Angela Rayner, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Dawn Butler and Emily Thornberry."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/25/labour-unexpectedly-drops-plan-for-female-co-deputy-leader

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Tartyflette · 26/09/2018 20:53

I thought it was odd as well, think a corro on the Beeb said something about Emily Thornberry's ambitions or chances for the actual leadership?

arranfan · 26/09/2018 20:56

So, are those candidates-in-waiting now beginning to regret throwing women under the bus in order to prove themselves worthy for The Position That Disappeared?

scepticalwoman · 26/09/2018 20:58

Using that tedious lefty male approach, I believe that it started as a tactic to oust Tom Watson but was abandoned when he enthusiastically supported the move. It's OK sisters - the great Labour ship, SS Misogyny sails on Sad

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corbyn-allies-plan-to-sideline-watson-with-female-deputy-bd6m57kdn?shareToken=347b5502aa05cefb1905ce17a294bf5d

AncientLights · 26/09/2018 21:55

We can't be too upset that we won't have Dawn Butler, Stella Creasy, Emily Thornberry and Angela Rayner as deputies with their TRA views surely? Don't know anything about the other two.

theOtherPamAyres · 26/09/2018 22:17

Labour can easily solve this.

Make the next leader a woman.

Fucksgiven · 26/09/2018 22:23

They have side stepped another debate about who can stand for women's roles as they don't want another equalities shit storm to add to anti semitism.

CircumzenithalArc · 26/09/2018 22:26

So depressing on so many levels.

The only woman in that group I would touch with a bargepole is Emily Thornberry on the condition she comes around to GC thinking... which is wishful thinking.

So I'd rather they ditched the idea.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 22:29

The only woman in that group I would touch with a bargepole is Emily Thornberry on the condition she comes around to GC thinking... which is wishful thinking.

Did you see the piece in the times today? ('Labour should relax about trans women, says Emily Thornberry 'Hmm). It was somewhat eclipsed by the billboard story, but there's a link on a thread somewhere

ShotsFired · 26/09/2018 23:20

They have side stepped another debate about who can stand for women's roles as they don't want another equalities shit storm to add to anti semitism.

Yup. They saw what was happening and killed this just to avoid having to answer awkward questions from either side.

They must have terrible splinters.

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BonnieF · 26/09/2018 23:33

It’s bizarre that Labour have dropped the entirely sensible idea of having two deputy leaders, one female and one male. This looks to me like an old-fashioned trade union stitch up. The big unions have always been a boys club, and have always supported male Labour candidates.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/09/2018 01:21

There has been some cracking stuff from the Labour Party this week. I particularly liked this Diane Abbott and Emily Maitis exchange

twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1044711531336863744?s=20

And this
www.lbc.co.uk/politics/parties/labour/teacher-abour-conference-education-stop-tories/

ShotsFired · 27/09/2018 08:34

Slight diversion: I am getting very very worried about the sway of JC telling people we can just "stop" brexit if gets power, like it's a lightswitch we can turn on and off at will.

He is agitating for a GE on a raft of a whole dungheap of absolutely crazy, unfeasible policies which are nothing more than media soundbites (stop brexit, consult the country on nuclear attacks, gove all workers 10% of companies they work for...)

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ShotsFired · 27/09/2018 08:39

@BonnieF It’s bizarre that Labour have dropped the entirely sensible idea of having two deputy leaders, one female and one male.

Not really.

If they pressed ahead, they'd have to face the elephant in the room of "what is a woman?". They've already shot themselves in the foot with their AWS (who they know to be derangedely incessant in their hunting down of anyone who goes against the doubleplus goodthink narrative), but they also know they are losing thousands of women voters who fundamentally disagree with that.

So the easy way to mollify both is to drop the issue entirely.
Plus that keeps all the existing male hierarchy happy as a side bonus.

Party of the workers my arse. I honestly can't see why anyone thinks their bullshit is even remotely credible.

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LangCleg · 27/09/2018 08:53

What scepticalwoman said. It's just the usual Labour factioneering. Nothing whatsoever to do with women.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/09/2018 09:00

He is agitating for a GE on a raft of a whole dungheap of absolutely crazy, unfeasible policies which are nothing more than media soundbites (stop brexit, consult the country on nuclear attacks, gove all workers 10% of companies they work for...)

I saw about 2 minutes of his tub- thumping about Theresa May should step down and let Labour negotiate Brexit.

I'm happy for Theresa May to be PM forever if the alternative is Corbyn.

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