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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Manspreading Stunt

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wonderingwhy123 · 26/09/2018 20:05

What is your opinion of this particular stunt.

www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/everyday-sexism/activists-bleach-mens-crotches-stop-manspreading/

Was this good or bad? And how do you think it effected the view of the feminist movement?

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Barracker · 27/09/2018 00:07

However, 14,000 women killed a year by domestic violence! That's a truly scary number and shows us how much more fortunate UK women are.

Yeah we only get killed at a rate of two a week.
Lucky lucky lucky us.

opla · 27/09/2018 06:21

"Fortunate"

Shock
NotTerfNorCis · 27/09/2018 06:50

When I heard about this I thought it was terrible. It's assault for no real reason. It makes feminists look bad.

KatVonGulag · 27/09/2018 07:09

If it's real, which I sincerely doubt, she'd would have got beaten up. If anyone did this they need to be imprisoned for assault.

FermatsTheorem · 27/09/2018 07:13

If it were real of course it would be terrible. But it clearly isn't so the interesting thing is why, given that this story is fabricated in order to attack feminists, are two UK news outlets carrying it without doing any fact checking at all?

placemats · 27/09/2018 07:25

So when men commit vile acts of murder, assault and rape on children and women, it's not all men.

One woman pulls an obvious stunt like this in the name of 'feminism' and it makes ALL feminists look bad. (She obviously had to keep filling the small bottle up! I don't condone it at all.)

Same old sexist standards.

placemats · 27/09/2018 07:32

Personally I like people on public transport to sit in a mannerly (no pun intended) fashion.

This video makes me feel prudish and old. I probably have behaved like this in the past though.

DereksSexyPyjamas · 27/09/2018 07:48

It reminds me quite a bit of the free bleeding hoax, another ‘story’ that was obviously nonsense.

It doesn’t say anything about feminists. It does, however, say quite a bit about the people who come up with the stories in the first place, and about the people who share them as anything other than ‘obvious hoax is obvious,’ whether that’s done maliciously or because they’re apparently incapable of engaging their critical facilities. None of what it says about them is good.

NotTerfNorCis · 27/09/2018 07:53

One woman pulls an obvious stunt like this in the name of 'feminism' and it makes ALL feminists look bad.

Anyone claiming to act for a cause can potentially damage the cause in the eyes of the public.

Have to say it didn't occur to me that this could be a hoax at first, given the kind of stunts feminists in Russia and Eastern Europe have pulled off in the past - invading the World Cup Finals for instance. They have a different attitude to campaigning, bold and sometimes extreme. But the target here, manspreading, seems oddly trivial.

NonaGrey · 27/09/2018 07:54

I sincerely hope this is faked, as it’s assault and pretty dangerous.

Hard to image a law student would think this was a good idea.

FermatsTheorem · 27/09/2018 08:12

Have to say it didn't occur to me that this could be a hoax at first, given the kind of stunts feminists in Russia and Eastern Europe have pulled off in the past - invading the World Cup Finals for instance. They have a different attitude to campaigning, bold and sometimes extreme. But the target here, manspreading, seems oddly trivial.

Have a look at my post upthread. 14000 murders a year in the context of DV, in a country which has just decriminalised DV. And when they do carry out these protests, they do get sent to something very much akin the gulag - not a "Goldsmith's student style spa day" gulag, but some of the worst prisons there are.

And in any case, invading a football pitch is still peaceful protest. Annoying yes (that's the whole point of doing a protest), violent, no.

Also, why do these new posters pop up to say "look, look, all feminists are bad. I demand you instantly condemn this non existent incident or you are just as bad"?

DereksSexyPyjamas · 27/09/2018 09:19

It's not logistically feasible either. A lot of people's first instinctive reaction to something like this will be to immediately knock the bottle out of her hand or at least away from them. If the picture is supposed to be 'real', that looks like a water bottle she's using. The liquid will fly everywhere, all over the people sitting next to the 'victim', and at eye-height. Come on.

LittleMissedTheSunshine · 27/09/2018 09:36

I don't think anyone pouring bleach on someone in the name of activism is a good idea. There are better ways to make a point!

Barracker · 09/10/2018 01:05

the video was a fake

Thought I'd resurrect this thread to confirm that yes, it was a big fat fake as several of us suspected.
And of course, it achieved its aim anyway of creating a backlash against feminism for those who believed it.

Well done to those who called it.

BitOfFun · 09/10/2018 01:17

This is why watching Homeland frightens me so much. They really do nail it with even the most over-the-top storylines.

DixieFlatline · 09/10/2018 02:07

I find myself wondering who other than a complete and utter cunt would think to use the deaths of 14000 women a year to try to make some asinine point about how good women in the UK have it.

foxyliz26 · 09/10/2018 02:24

Love it , but most of my girlfriends have sat legs a kimbo in a similar fashion or spread with one leg on top

these men think all women like that sort of thing !

gay men call it advertising their packet !

DixieFlatline · 09/10/2018 04:18

these men think all women like that sort of thing

There are various tiers of manspreader. When you've experienced the very highest (>70cm knee-to-knee distance, while a woman next to the man in question is clearly forced to sit wonkily and/or have her feet not resting on the floor normally in order to fit in her part of the space) you are under no illusion that it is supposed to be some sort of impressive display to women. These men are just cunts trying to get one over on women they don't know in order to satisfy some need inside them to do so.

ParentsOfSummer · 09/10/2018 06:17

"So everyone can immediately understand which body part controls the behaviour of these men"

...that's maybe a little reductionist? I can't see this changing men or promoting feminism in a good light, it just sounds like aimless anger which is a shame as it is more likely to overshadow the numerous elevated points of femanism.

Maybe some men manspread as a means to show off their crotch or imagined dominance but realistically in most cases its more about comfort or keeping balance on a moving vehicle - i doubt many men have been told it could be offensive and would gladly sit with closed legs with a polite "would you mind?".

I suppose it's raised discussion which is good... I'd hope there was a better way though

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/10/2018 06:32

I'm loving the fact that people still aren't spotting that this is a fake, even after it's been posted on the thread!

HumberElla · 09/10/2018 11:27

So this was Russia, using actors and fake set, to do a video that would cause a backlash against women and feminists in particular? So says the news yesterday.
Makes me wonder what else Russia might have a hand in when it comes to degeneration of women’s rights. They have form in interfering with social and political policy.

woman11017 · 09/10/2018 21:52

Makes me wonder what else Russia might have a hand in when it comes to degeneration of women’s rights. They have form in interfering with social and political policy

Yup. I think we have incoming from all over the place. They just don't like liberal democracies with women's rights built into the constitutions.
From the extreme right, extreme left and the russians have been playing with our democracies for the last decade.

euvsdisinfo.eu/viral-manspreading-video-is-staged-kremlin-propaganda/

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