So my daughter wanted a pamper party for her fifth birthday..

[LittleMissedTheSunshine]

.. and my friend's son was one of the guests and got stuck right in with the glittery nail varnish, eye shadow and blusher.

And no one said this child is really a girl!

This is how it is supposed to be right.. that a boy can play with makeup or whatever and that's ok. Not.. oh he must be a girl in the wrong body.

Well done to my friend's son who is only 4 for not conforming to gender stereotypes and getting stuck right in there with the makeup and glitter, and even more well done to my friend for supporting this without questioning his 'gender identity' in any way shape or form.

See? It can be done....

LittleMissed

You're an adult, so spend as long as you like putting make up on - though I think there are better uses of time. I would question though why a group of 5-year-old girls should want to spend an entire party doing it.

To be fair, I can't imagine my 5 year old knowing what that 'pamper parties' are even a thing, let alone wanting one?

though I think there are better uses of time

Like being sanctimonious on an internet forum.

In any case Now100 referred to women wasting time.

This is how it is supposed to be right.. that a boy can play with makeup or whatever and that's ok. Not.. oh he must be a girl in the wrong body.
Agreed

Oh Ffs, some people are so desperate to appear 'woke' 🙄

A boy child played with glitter and coloured paints ergo he's a girl

Alternatively a wee boy played with glitter and coloured paints.........

Oh Ffs, some people are so desperate to appear 'woke' 🙄

A boy child played with glitter and coloured paints ergo he's a girl

No one has said that on this thread.

Look the anti makeup thing isn't personal - do what you like. From a feminist class analysis point of view, make up - and a woman's worth being defined by meeting beauty standards - is part of the gender subjugation toolkit. In a non patriarchal society make-up could be benign.

No one will revoke anyone's feminist card for wearing make up ffs. We all make non feminist choices to get along in this patriarchal society. But I don't see how a make up party for primarily little girls is a pro feminist choice, it's not a personal attack to point this out.

I'm glad that the kids all had a nice time!

A 4 year old who spontaneously finds the idea of putting on makeup to be a great birthday party idea is a rare child. A bit like a vegan cat you know?

I have to say, since DD started school she’s very aware of makeup and hair and all that stuff. In fact, there’s a couple of girls in her class who were laughing at her because she doesn’t use it (she’s 5 ffs) and doesn’t care about hair styles.

It made me really sad that at 5 it’s already got into her head, despite my best efforts.

So I do agree that socially it is a problem, if at 5 we have wee girls already being judged by their appearance.

I have to say, since DD started school she’s very aware of makeup and hair and all that stuff. In fact, there’s a couple of girls in her class who were laughing at her because she doesn’t use it (she’s 5 ffs) and doesn’t care about hair styles.

Whhhhhaaaaaaattt?! That's awful.

There are some girls in DS class who have been all about the hairstyles and wearing heels and makeup at school disco since very young. Their mums are the ones who encourage this. The girls with the sensible mums are still wearing trainers and ponytails and getting as messy as the boys.

Vegan cat.

When DS was in year 2 or 3 I think his best friend was a girl. They were inseperable and really good friends, went to each other's parties, etc.
In about Y5 she had a pamper party and of course he wasn't invited.
They drifted apart after that, but I suppose that's the age when boys and girls diverge.