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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Venice Allan interview with Feminist Current, "the more of us that stand up, the less they can attack us".

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R0wantrees · 25/09/2018 15:28

Wide ranging interview that covers a number of key events since July 2017:

'The irrepressible Venice Allan on her fight against changes to the UK Gender Recognition Act
Julie Moss speaks with Venice Allan, the organizer of We Need to Talk — a series of events aimed at discussing proposed changes to the UK Gender Recognition Act.'

concludes:
"VA: My message has always been that I’m just an ordinary concerned mother and woman. I haven’t really done anything and everyone needs to stand up — this is not the time to be worrying about our reputations and what people think of us. It’s now or never, and if these laws go through, we’re fucked. You don’t have to be an expert. Not everyone likes organizing events, but anyone can do something, and the more of us that stand up, the less they can attack us.

Addendum: Venice is attending a Court hearing on September 26th with lesbian feminist Linda Bellos, who is accused of saying she would “thump” any trans activist who tried to attack her, during a We Need to Talk event that took place in York on November 8th. This case is being brought privately by Giuliana Kendal."

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/09/24/interview-irrepressible-venice-allan-fight-changes-uk-gender-recognition-act/

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BeyondAdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 15:31

Love this, the "manager, that would be the PM" comment made me literally laugh aloud Grin

IHATEPeppaPig · 25/09/2018 15:51

Venice is a hero!!!!

I have become braver in discussing this in public as I also think it's now or never- the madness needs to stop!

LangCleg · 25/09/2018 15:54

Venice is the best. Absolutely indefatigable women who has managed to raise so much awareness with absolutely no resources whatsoever. And how she manages to stay so upbeat and chipper is a wonder to me.

thainparnell · 25/09/2018 16:23

I just read that piece and totally agree, Venice is fabulous. So inspiring.

Littlemouseroar · 25/09/2018 16:32

Ive been letting women know about whats going on and the fact that we can say something to the consultation. Doesnt seem to be widely publicised irl, so have been telling women there is a consultation. We might have already lost but it takes snowflakes to make an avalanche.

LadyBrianAdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 16:48

Brava Venice Wine

LadyBrianAdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 16:53

Littlemouse Fair Play For Women are organising group leafletting around the country, if you get on their FB page or message them you might find like minded local women.

FermatsTheorem · 25/09/2018 16:58

I very cautiously stuck my head over the parapet the other day by commenting favourably on a gender critical article in a national newspaper under my own name.

Apart from anything else, I reckon it actually helps to protect me. If someone tries to doxx me (I work in the public sector) I can say "here I am, being open about what are actually fairly moderate and widely shared political views - and freedom of political expression is enshrined in law in this country, and allowed under my terms of employment so long as I make it clear that I'm speaking in a personal capacity - so whoever it was reported me is clearly in the wrong and just trying to stir up trouble."

Littlemouseroar · 25/09/2018 17:06

Unfortunately due to personal circumstances I cannot go on facebook and the website said that is the only way i can join them. I’ll roar by myself- ive created my own little things to hand out about the consultation.

LadyBrianAdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 17:40

That's a shame Little. I'm impressed st you going it alone Flowers

placemats · 25/09/2018 18:08

Just read Posie's latest video on Facebook re her visit to Liverpool during the conference.

And Venice, Posie and Stephanie are sheros. As are we all.

Stand up and be counted.

Courage calls to courage everywhere.

Littlemouseroar · 25/09/2018 18:27

I’m just trying to let people know in my small way. I’m not a millionaire but we all have our ways to help. Frankly, I would feel more scared if I didn't. Nothing like feeling you can’t be silenced.

placemats · 25/09/2018 18:32

little

You are a shero too.

placemats · 25/09/2018 18:33

No one is a millionaire.

I'm as poor as a church mouse.

HumphreyCobblers · 25/09/2018 18:37

Courage calls to courage

These women are inspirational and have made me braver. I am going out leafleting in the week.

Thank you to all of you.c

FeckTheMagicDragon · 29/09/2018 18:46

I watched the meeting on YouTube - these sort of meetings are not normally for me (too many conferences/talks/training sessions through work)
BUT this was awesome, informative, passionate - and heartbreaking in places.
It wasn’t some slick piece of promotion. It was honest, raw and from the heart.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 29/09/2018 19:03

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MacaroonMama · 29/09/2018 19:45

@Littlemouseroar, if you email Dr Nic Williams from FPFW and tell her wherever you are in the country, she could get one of us in a local ‘chapter’ to check you out and add you to a WhatsApp group? If you would like to join us?

Littlemouseroar · 29/09/2018 20:29

macaroon Would love to but apart from mn, am off social media for my safety. So no to whatsapp etc.

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