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Billboard with dictionary definition 'woman: adult human female' removed after pressure from TRAs.

423 replies

R0wantrees · 24/09/2018 18:19

Is the OED now hate speech?

Interesting to note some of the sources of the complaints: twitter.com/Direct_PS/status/1044263398333132800

Billboard with dictionary definition 'woman: adult human female' removed after pressure from TRAs.
Billboard with dictionary definition 'woman: adult human female' removed after pressure from TRAs.
Billboard with dictionary definition 'woman: adult human female' removed after pressure from TRAs.
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sashh · 25/09/2018 08:27

They have removed or it has crashed, the online booking from their website.

birdbandit · 25/09/2018 08:40

This is a ludicrous decision. To remove a dictionary definition of woman from a billboard, because it offends the sensibilities of some people who clearly get a sexual kick from cross dressing and being vile to women, should, press willing, throw a lot of sunlight on this whole nonsense.

And even if you did think it was goady to the poor trans kids who will kill themselves the moment someone disagree with them (they won't, check the stats not the mermaid propaganda). If even then, why is it only the words defending women which need to be torn down? Why not the vile racism on twitter, or the misogyny? Why is it ok to print pics of someone's boobs? Print a political billboard? Make statements on the side of a bus?

Why are all these things OK? But not a dictionary definition of woman, because a white middle class, male doctor with a proven history of hate speech, bullying and abusive behaviour towards women, has told you to?

Is this just a set up of the good Dr? Hoisted by his own petard etc?

AspieAndProud · 25/09/2018 08:50

Send it to The Sun. They are having a field day with all this. But they don't read it in Liverpool though do they? No, we haven't forgiven them for Hillsborough. We should be organising the same kind of boycott for The Guardian over its coverage of trans-issues. Boycotts can work.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 08:52

Good.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 25/09/2018 08:54

Mmm. Not only will I donate to a crowdfunder, I think I will also call PrimeSight. We have power - women spend the most in response to advertising. And I have a very good and business like telephone manner.

sashh · 25/09/2018 08:57

AspieAndProud

Maybe we should fund a poster saying, "Don't buy the sun" and then have a few people complain saying it hurts them and is sunphobic and see if they take it down.

sashh · 25/09/2018 08:57

Sorry maybe not too clear on that, I mean to show them how ridiculous their stance and apology are.

Callmejudith · 25/09/2018 09:30

Donated

RedToothBrush · 25/09/2018 09:59

The next thing that should be done is a poster about men.

Same thing. But men.

See what happens.

arranfan · 25/09/2018 10:02

Interesting Twitter thread about the removal - Lachlan’s responders seem to find it hard to believe: twitter.com/Lachlan_Edi/status/1044328823033147395

R0wantrees · 25/09/2018 10:06

The next thing that should be done is a poster about men.

Yes, absolutely.

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TransposersArePosers · 25/09/2018 10:10

Would it be a step too far to then do Trans woman?

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 25/09/2018 10:14

The next thing that should be done is a poster about men.

Same thing. But men.

See what happens

That’s a really good idea

SuburbanRhonda · 25/09/2018 10:15

You can buy a postcard of one for men on the Standing for Women website.

I wonder if putting up a poster of the men one is their next move.

LiverpoolReSisters · 25/09/2018 10:32

We rang and complained to the company, as a representative of women and men across the city, of how ridiculous this situation is. Had a good conversation with one of their employees, actually.

Definitely take the time to complain, it makes an impact.

MipMipMip · 25/09/2018 10:43

I'd like one with Stonewalls definition of trans.

RitaFairclough · 25/09/2018 10:45

Bit off topic here but is Adrian Harrop a real Doctor? I am interested in how his belief that TW are women affects his ability to do his job. For example, my parents have both had heart attacks. They were completely different - would he be looking for a woman’s type of symptoms in a TW? How about booze. If a TW said she drank 15 units a week would Dr H say “ooh cut down, the recommended limit is 14 for women” even though he knows men and women’s bodies process alcohol differently. What about if a TW came to him with symptoms of prostate cancer? Would he say “drop your kecks, I need to check your prostate”? Or would he pretend the TW didn’t have a prostate and potentially send them to an early grave?

Twunk · 25/09/2018 10:47

A friend has said poster was down first thing today! Has been replaced with a Cancer Research one

Juells · 25/09/2018 10:51

Wonder if the Cancer Research poster refers to women as cervix-havers. Or menstruators.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 10:58

Oh well I hope cancer research got the space for free.

R0wantrees · 25/09/2018 11:00

CRUK have removed mention of woman from their descriptions of gynaecological cancers.

September is Gynaecological Cancer Awareness Month.

2016 comment by Professor Clare McKenzie, RCOG Vice President:
"Sadly, more than 21,000 women are diagnosed with one of the five forms of gynaecological cancer each year in the UK. In 2014, more than 7,750 of these women lost their battle. Despite these alarming statistics, gynaecological cancer remains a taboo subject among the public. We know that stigma, embarrassment and a lack of knowledge about the disease, are key barriers for women to talk openly about gynaecological cancer and seek medical help.

A new survey by The Eve Appeal now reveals a shocking number of women know little about their own anatomy; with nearly half of those surveyed unable to identify the vagina on an anatomical diagram, and 45% of women couldn’t point out the cervix.

Awareness of female cancers was also low; the survey found that 14% of women could not name a single gynaecological cancer, and 8% thought breast cancer was a type of gynaecological cancer. This survey highlights a growing need for better sex education. If women are better informed about what is normal or not when it comes to their gynaecological health, there is a higher chance they will seek help. This knowledge will equip young women for the future, and work to remove the stigma associated with gynaecological cancer."

www.rcog.org.uk/en/blog/gynaecological-cancer-awareness-month-know-your-body/

Eve Appeal:
The Eve Appeal leads a national campaign to address the stigma and taboos that stop women talking about gynaecological cancers, their signs and symptoms. Our ambition is to stop these cancers before they start and to do this we need to encourage women to know their bodies and know about all 5 gynae cancers.

Straight-talking is vital. Using the proper anatomical terms around gynaecological health, talking openly about common symptoms like changes to periods and bleeding and not using stigmatising or silly terms to describe parts of the female body are really important steps towards better awareness and ultimately early diagnosis.

Every year, we undertake research amongst women aged 16 – 65 as part of our Gynaecological Cancer Awareness Month campaign in September. Lots of our partners (supporters, clinicians, other charities, corporate supporters, women’s networks) help us spread this important message: women should know their own bodies, be able to talk without embarrassment about gynae signs and symptoms, and above all, call a vagina a vagina (and not a foofoo, a flower, a ladypart…….).

eveappeal.org.uk/news-awareness/straight-talking-things-gynae/

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 25/09/2018 11:10

On a slightly different note, I was looking at this twitter thread in which Dr Harass tweets his misogynistic complaint to pretty much everyone in the billboard company, with immediate results. Perhaps we should consider a coordinated complaint campaign in response to ads depicting women in derogatory ways.

If nothing else all this entitled outrage is inspiring me to think we are putting up with a lot more shit than we need to

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 11:13

Their accounts will go into meltdown. Do please remember to attach any imaged of their billboards with sexist ads.

Procrastinator1 · 25/09/2018 11:22

YY Tallulah and/or how do advertisers feel to hear thir billboard co is literally (and I do mean literally) tearing down the meaning of woman?

Procrastinator1 · 25/09/2018 11:24

Is there a photo of the ad being torn down?