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Email sent to LP member from Dawn Butler: Equality will never be an afterthought

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DeRigueurMortis · 22/09/2018 18:18

So despite having left the LP I still get all the "party" emails.

This corker came in today from Dawn hot from the Women's Conference.

Whilst there's nothing "controversial" (and tbh welcome help for re: DV victims - albeit overly simplistic imho which make me wonder just how much they really care about DV, and talk of a ministry for Women & Equalities) I just can't get past how meaningless all this is when the Party can't even properly identify what a woman is and through policies on Self ID are undermining opportunities such as AW shortlist's.

I can't help feeling it's a sop to women tbh. Here are some crumbs off the Labour woke feast table, just to keep to from starving. I just felt insulted reading it.

Am I the only person annoyed by this? Have I just become so damn cynical I can't see the good in any of this?

Email sent to LP member from Dawn Butler: Equality will never be an afterthought
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ShotsFired · 23/09/2018 13:07

I swear some days it feels like Labour have one of those "what is your cat's superhero name" facebook memes, but for policies.

Name the policy according to the month of your birth
Pick the marginalised group according to the first letter of your name
Decide the outcome of the initiative according to the town you were born in.

Et voila - new policy!

IAmLurkacus · 23/09/2018 13:13

ShotsFired

I’m desperately trying not to laugh, because it’s actually really serious. But that sounds like exactly how they choose their policies. It beggars belief that anyone over the age of 25 (or younger if they have critical thinking skills) will actually vote for them. No wonder they want to lower the voting age to 16. Adults can see through this shite and are distinctly unimpressed.

rememberatime · 23/09/2018 13:14

Women in DV situations need so much more than this. it covers the tiny proportion of women who have jobs (and therefore the financial ability to leave).

it misses those women who work for themselves (no employer), who are forced to work from home by their spouse, who don't work, who have childcare or relative care responsibilities, those who need to go into a shelter, those who are ashamed, those who don't get on with their boss, those who fear the stigma.

it misses on so many levels.

ShotsFired · 23/09/2018 13:23

IAmLurkacus

I wasn't a Labour voter before JC got elected but now he is, there isn't enough money in the world that could induce me.

Even so, I am really pissed off with how mindblowingly bad they are as an Opposition. They spend their days spewing out incoherent, random pie in the sky collections of buzzwords that they hope will get a vote from whoever they are talking to on any given day, and hope nobody notices they haven't a thought-through, affordable or remotely viable policy to their name.

Addressing Brexit and being an effective Opposition to the Government is a sideshow for them, because I don't think they would actually know what to do with power if they got it. They're just shitstirring for the sake of it, it seems.

WrongOnTInternet · 23/09/2018 14:37

incoherent, random pie in the sky collections of buzzwords that they hope will get a vote from whoever they are talking to on any given day,

Ain't that the truth. What price integrity, and representation of various points of view. I used to be a member of the Greens and admired Caroline Lucas. Not now, no way.

OlennasWimple · 23/09/2018 14:56

Another reason not to employ women because they could incur costs to your business (yes, I know men are victims of DV too, but not nearly as high a %)

A complete lack of understanding about the courage needed to actually get up and go and who one might want to share that information with

A complete oversight of those who don't work, or who work for someone who knows their partner or family

Hmm

Here's an idea for any politic party serious about helping female victims of DV: guarantee that any refuge they may seek to use or phone support services they might access will be 100% female staffed

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