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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why this is all nonsense - an analogy

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Tellin · 20/09/2018 20:11

Hi MN, I'm feeling particularly angry about the GRA consultation this week. In response to talking about it, I've been called unintelligent, bigoted, accused of hate speech and sneered at by super woke friends who smugly believe they're right and I'm just an enthusiastic, uninformed idiot. I've lost friends over it, although, they clearly weren't very good friends in the first place if that's the disdain they have for a difference of opinion. So I channelled my anger into this. Feel free to add to it.

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I would like to tell you all about myself.

Ever since I was a young child, I knew that I was going to be an Oxford graduate. It is just who I am inside, my destiny. Except, when the time came to apply, I just didn’t have the grades. Except, I am not a mediocre student; I am special, and Oxford University was where I belonged.

So I didn’t give up on me.

I bought myself a gown, and many items of Oxford Uni branded clothing: hats, hoodies. My sister went to Oxford University, so I tried on hers in secret first (I didn’t ask but she never knew - ha!), before buying my own. It just felt right. As everyone knows, all Oxford students are white, posh and from private school. So I tried to change the way I spoke and learn cultural references so I could sound more like an Oxford student. I learned all the names of the colleges, everything. I started asking people to say (Oxon) after my name, and I began to feel more authentic.

But it wasn’t enough. I started hanging around the university buildings. It was so hurtful when they wouldn’t let me into tutorials and lecture halls, saying it was for Oxford University students only. I felt invisible as a human being, denied my right to be who I truly am. Why should they be allowed in and not me? I couldn’t go to any of the societies. I was an outcast. Even though, to anyone else, with my new private school accent, Oxford hoodie and walking like a typical Oxford student, there was no way for anyone else to tell I didn’t really go there.

But I knew.

Hurt, distressed, unsupported by my family, I struggled. I didn’t have a degree from anywhere else and so I couldn’t get a top job like other Oxford graduates. My parents seemed to suggest this was my fault for not going to another university, but they didn’t understand. I couldn’t just ‘go’ to another university. They refused to support my mission to be an Oxford graduate so I have cut them off - the bigots.

I began to self-harm. Thoughts of suicide danced in my head. I applied again for a degree but again, I was cruelly rejected. Why were they keeping me out of the space I so desperately needed to belong to? It was an abuse of my human rights.

Eventually, through endless campaigning, letter-writing and detailed accounts of my self-harm and lack of job prospects, for reasons no-one understands, the university agreed to give me a degree! A piece of paper that confirmed to the world what I always knew to be true: I was an Oxford graduate! They did say I wasn’t actually allowed to use it to get a job or anything, but that didn’t matter. It spoke the truth. It gave me my dignity.

So now, I give lectures about my experience of being an Oxford graduate and my time at Oxford. Just because I didn’t actually go to any of the lectures, or take any of the courses doesn’t actually mean my experience is any less valid than theirs. It’s about being able to accept a wider definition of what it means to be an Oxford graduate. It doesn’t just have to mean people who actually went there, but rather it’s about acknowledging that an Oxford graduate is something we can all be if it’s what we feel inside to be true.

Some have called me inspirational, stunning, brave for telling of my experiences. And I believe I am these things. Yet some Oxford graduates refuse to believe that I am valid; they reject my identity and are seeking to have me banned from alumnae events. They think my degree ought to be revoked! Some have even suggested I am mentally unwell. I think this cruel, exclusionary behaviour is essentially literal violence against me as a person. Who are they to judge me? I have that piece of paper after all, just like them.

Fortunately I don’t listen to them, and any attempt they make to engage me in any debate is met simply by me saying ‘SHUT UP, BIGOT. SHUT UP OR I’LL KILL MYSELF.’ They tend to shut up quite quickly. But then again, as an Oxford graduate, I have excellent debating and reasoning skills. They’ve got no chance against me.

The truth is, Oxford graduates will never really understand how someone like me has struggled to be a part of their world. In fact, I’m actually better than they are at being an Oxford graduate, because it’s been harder for me to get here. My struggles mean more than everyone else who just breezed in. Although, what I really need is an IQ enlargement procedure to put me fully on par with other Oxford graduates except you don’t actually need the surgery to still feel like one of course, it would just make me feel more like one. It is an infringement of my human rights that the NHS won’t currently pay for this to happen.

Recently, even though I wasn’t technically meant to use it this way, I’ve been able to use my degree to get myself a prestigious job. I would never have gotten it without my precious degree and I am completely qualified for the job, and fully deserving of it. I’m just like any other Oxford graduate, so why shouldn’t I? My employers didn’t question it - the degree certificate looks like any other degree certificate.

And so now I feel truly myself, out and proud in the world as the person I have always been: an Oxford graduate.

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nopeni · 20/09/2018 20:19

Indeed.

I made a similar analogy once before about identifying as a parent. I mean, I'm not one but if I wore a fake bump, read the books, joined the groups etc, walked a doll around in a peak, called myself a mummy and posted on social media a lot about it, then why couldn't I legally be treated as one? Why couldn't I lecture the rest of you and write books on best practice, speak up as a Mum, park in parent and child slots, and get tax credits?

There is just no other worldly equivalent of this situation where a fiction would be acceptable to the point that the current one is - because they couldn't tie into the feelings tied up with sexuality and the shame/pride attitudes around it, which have let them bulldoze common sense.

JillyArmeeen · 20/09/2018 20:54

I identify as an astronaut. Still waiting for nasa to give me a job.
Maybe I should threaten to kill myself if they don't call me right now and send me on the next mission.

CircumzenithalArc · 20/09/2018 21:07

Analogy doesn't really work though does it because you're born one sex or another no one is born already an Oxford graduate.

A better analogy is the nationality one. Ie you always felt you should be Italian. You even learned all the language and wore Stereotypically Italian clothes, ate Spaghetti, drove a Moped etc. But your Passport and birth certificate always says a different county. You can apply for citizenship but your previous nationality will never be erased. You need to go through certain societally accepted procedures to 'become' Italian. You can't just rock up and say you are Italian.

stillathing · 20/09/2018 21:17

I reckon a very good analogy has to take into account the humongous power imbalance between the identifier and the appropriated class of person? But its all v well for me to say that as I can't currently be bothered to write one.

CircumzenithalArc · 20/09/2018 21:25

Italians are the most opressed, ever.

Freespeecher · 20/09/2018 21:46

Tellin

  1. That's really very good.
  2. Are you Jeffrey Archer?
Latinista · 20/09/2018 21:57

Tellin I’m a woman and an Oxford graduate (and part-Italian), and I think this is a great analogy. Thank you for sharing.

FermatsTheorem · 20/09/2018 22:11

I identify as being independently wealthy.

My bank account is being trans-trustafarian-phobic. Bigot!

DuckingGoodPJs · 20/09/2018 22:29

I am transfeline.

I knew I was really meant to be a cat from the age of three. I was always jealous of the born-cats, smug bastards, sitting in the sun, taking naps.

So I went down to the alley to hang with all the other cats. I had on my cat-ear headband, and found an old fox-tail and attached it to my trousers. I thought it would be cool to hang out with the other cats - but imagine my surprise when they did not accept me as just like them! In fact, due to my size (not my fault, I was assigned human at birth) they were all afraid of me! Confused

So I threatened to kill myself if they did not accept me. In a shock move, those bigoted felines were largely indifferent to my plight. Hmm

Tomorrow, I will go down to the pound and see if I can get locked up with the other strays. Hopefully, they have a vet there that can do my Feline Confirmation Surgery for free! I want to have kittens.

Turph · 21/09/2018 04:57

I identify as ninety years old. I have explained that through reading wartime books and listening to 40s jazz I have the same lived experience as a ninety year old. I am taking the govt to court because I am too old to work and have not been given a pension. I have also applied for a place in a council run care home. The council said there was a waiting list and elderly people in need but I think that's transagephobic. I deserve that place as much as realold people do.
I feel so comfortable in my housecoat and slippers, and I have a lovely blue rinse and perm. My hair is thicker than the other ninety year olds so I think I'm better at being ninety than they are. I'm also much healthier than them!
I go to the daycare centre three times a week and sometimes we go in the bus and have a fish supper or a trip to a nearby National Trust location. I can easily afford the trips, some of the realold people moan about the cost. Luckily I run my own web-based hentai business so I don't have to moan about money like they do.
I got one horrible old cow thrown out the lunch club last Sunday, she told me I was a "silly young man who should find another hobby" so I've had her barred and am suing the lunch club. They say they've got no money and rely on volunteers but there's obviously money to pay for the church hall so I think they're being transagephobic again. They've closed the lunch club since I started my legal action but I feel it's important to make a stand. I'm just as old as they are.

CrackpotsArePots · 21/09/2018 05:11

Excellent analogy

I believe Rachel Dolezal got there first in real life by identifying as black

CrackpotsArePots · 21/09/2018 05:13

It's also never a bad time to link to Deer Club

"We can be deer anywhere"

TerfsUp · 21/09/2018 08:12

Tellin, excellent.

I would add to your account: "I now spend my time telling other Oxford graduates what they should do, say and believe because my experience of 'identifying' as an Oxford graduate is more valid than their experience of being an Oxford graduate."

nopeni · 21/09/2018 08:26

The age one works better actually, and I'm amazed it hasn't happened.

Just think what identifying as a sexy young thing could offer you.

FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 08:37

Well, if a certain well-known transwoman, who, were they actually a woman, would be menopausal and invisible (like we poor pale genuine fifty-something women) seemed to think that they could make a cake of themselves on Celebrity Big Brother by coming on to a man considerably younger than they were, and then threw a huge hissy fit when they were (very gently) rebuffed, I suspect that being confused about one's sex and being confused about one's age go hand in hand.

TerfsUp · 21/09/2018 09:31

Ha, Fermats! That would never happen...

DuckingGoodPJs · 21/09/2018 12:39

I believe Rachel Dolezal got there first in real life by identifying as black

What about that student rep dude who identifies as an Indian woman?

Dolezal is female, she got singled out. Plenty of other dudes are appropriating race, or age, in all of this.

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