Are you privileged because you "can take your gender for granted"?

[kesstrel]

Apparently Angela Rayner MP thinks so:

"I find it very unpleasant that some of my sisters are often questioned on their gender, the very thing that many women can take for granted."

twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1042727730922614786?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

It's not women who take their 'gender' for granted, it's society that does.

Did she lose her brain and capacity for actually thinking

She’ll be great as Education Secretary, won’t she?

It's not a granted thing or not. It just 'is'. We can't be blamed because a trendy minority of men get the huff because they were born make.

Think about when a woman who can't conceive comes on a thread to say that they feel bad or jealous whenever they see a pregnant woman or someone with a baby. What do people say? Sorry but this is your issue - you need to get over it. Not 'how awful for you! these terrible women flaunting their babies in your face - how very dare they!'

Well yes. While there are a lot of unpleasant things about being a woman it's pretty good that I not convinced that I am a man and don't have to deal with the rejection/humiliation that results from trying live as one.

I hope her sisters have plenty of oinment for the sick burn she got from that twitter thread

She might be better off with an old style cunty woman - we always have small first aid kits in our handbags (or that might just be me...)

Next time I have my competency questioned and my suggestions ignored, instead of being irked at the implicit sexism I shall instead reflect on how priviliged I am to be recognised as a woman and treated accordingly. Thanks Angela, now I have seen the light.

"Well, mental health is a privilege, in a way, I guess."

I do think I was privileged actually, not to be growing up in today's society. Thank god I'm not a teenager or very young person today facing this ludicrous wave of social contagion.

If TWAW, as Angela so fervently believes, what "privilege" are they missing?

Many of them claim "I've always been a woman", so I'm at a loss to know what, exactly, they think I've got that they haven't.

Unless it's about biology...

Let me think.
Well, I suppose that I'm privileged in that no one gives me the side eye when I walk into the Ladies or a female changing room. And, er, that's about it.

Actually, that is it. No one assumes I'm not a woman (except on the telephone as I have a deepish voice though not Fenella Fielding deep) or that I'm pretending to be a woman, or in the uncanny valley. And men treat me accordingly: over the years lasciviously, condescendingly, or latterly merely with contempt and disregard until they get to know me better.

Perhaps sister Angela can expand a bit on this undoubted privilege?

And BTW gender is a pile of poo dumped on us by society.

mental health is a privilege, in a way, I guess

This is sobering - it's probably what most people are thinking. They feel sorry for those they think have mental health issues.

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Umm...

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No. Just no.

'mental health is a privilege, in a way, I guess'
Are cunty women immune from mental ill health now?
My brain didnt get that memo.
Silly lady brain.

I'd promised myself I wouldn't contribute to threads where I don't have much to say, but FFS. I just bloody despair, I really do. Is it really this bad? Are we this far down with this crap that MPs are spouting such mindless, cult-like, meaningless twaddle? Sisters, the privilege of my gender. Just vomit on me now it makes me heave. Thank fuck for Janice Turner, Sarah Ditum, Caroline Criado-Perez and Hadley Freeman otherwise I think I'd just give up.

One of the many things that I find so galling about this statement is that there seems to be no idea of representation there, of being a politician who should represent people (or in the case of a Minister, a particular brief). I might not agree with her, but if she brought real issues to the table, real problems her trans constituents are tasking her to solve, it would make for a much better debate. Real people with concrete issues and decent leadership can solve problems, but this social media pretendy world can't.

But she's not talking about 'things my trans constituents have raised with me in constituency surgeries' or 'feedback because of my shadow secretary brief' it's just hand-waving, probably stuff she's got from a few self-appointed spokespeople. If it was trans constituents that she was talking about I would be genuinely interested because there are so few non-activist/celebrity voices in this. We hear only from the same few people popping up at government consultations or the Guardian, and then there are thousands of accounts on Twitter which may or may not be real that boost what those people say. But I've never even heard Stonewall talk about consulting with a large number of transpeople, let alone trying to create dialogue and understanding, they just have that board who get rotated around the media. What actually is the size of the trans community in the UK? What makes Stonewall think they legitimately represent that whole community and not just possibly quite a small number of people with a specific agenda? Why is it that the only organisation that has platformed transwomen and natal women together to discuss the GRA issues cooperatively is Fair Play for Women?

Is this whole thing something to distract from the Brexit omnishambles and her party's stasis on that?

I am quite often questioned on my gender because I look like a man.

I don't threaten to kill myself or call 999 to report a hate crime.

I'm really not bothered.

Is that privilege?

Since my teens I've been told I'm 'not a proper woman.'

I reject femininity. But I am still female.

Angela Rayner can get to the far side of fuck with the Lib Dems and the Green party.

How can you be greatful for something you didn’t ask for and can’t change?!

The very notion is utterly ludicrous and repeating it is indicative of a person who couldn’t think themselves out of a wet paper bag.

I don't want to be able to take society's made up Bullshit expectations about me for granted.
What a silly woman.

Dear Angela

When we reach a tipping point of scandals that the extremist activism has caused by driving gaping holes into our safeguarding frameworks, who do you think will get the blame?

You will. Men like Owen Jones and Michael Cashman will walk away largely unscathed.

You're a useful idiot.

That, my dear, is gender.

Think on.

Lang

Dick...I think that's where we are going. Because we haven't hacked ourselves to bits and made more effort to be pass as men, we are clearly accepting the gender identity forced on to us.

Thus rape, the pay gap, the lack of women in politics is all the fault of silly women accepting their gender identity and then complaining because that identity is inconsistent with respect or brains.

Lang 👏👏