Article on the reality of false rape allegations

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Just found it through twitter, seems to have been posted in response to the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings and the allegation made against him.

qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/

That was very interesting mother

Good article, thanks

Yeah, it's good to see the reality of the small number of false allegations explained and the overall situation laid out. I've book marked so I can direct people to it in the future.

Really interesting - thanks

That was particularly interesting for me. One case I know of that involved a false claim was in someone who I had remembered telling stories of when she was at school and she'd claim that she'd been kidnapped during lunch hour to explain why she and a friend had been late back from lunch.

The other was a blogger who claimed to have been raped in an horrendously, graphic, manner. She told her story to encourage other women to reveal theirs and after those women bared their souls, her account was revealed to be untrue. As far as I know tho', she didn't make a report to the police so maybe that's a different category.

It's a thought-provoking piece and it was helpful that they discussed men who are behind false allegations or who make them.

But if a woman without any history of dramatic falsehoods says she went home with a man and, after they’d kissed a while consensually, he held her down and forced her into sex—in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary, you can just assume it’s true.

Interesting article but I'm a bit conflicted on this quote.

Much like any man can be a potential rapist, shouldn't we accept that any accuser could be a potential liar?

I'd imagine that finding 'compelling evidence to the contrary' isn't easy in a word of mouth type case.

What is more likely, that men lie about being rapists or that women lie about being raped ?

We know that in reality men are the ones telling the lies, but every misogynist going likes to claim that women are universally liars instead.

In the light of Kavanaugh, I thought this Jeremy C Young thread about that study might be interesting:

Thanks to KavanaughHearings, I've heard from a number of men this week who are terrified that they'll be falsely accused of rape. Good news, men: Kavanaugh hasn't been falsely accused, and you won't be either. Don't believe me? Let's look at the evidence.

How hard is it to get someone to falsely accuse a man of rape? In the last week of the 2016 election, Democratic donors Susie Tompkins Buell and David Brock decided to find out. They offered $700,000 to any woman who would say Donald Trump raped her. So these women had whatever normal incentives women have to lie about rape, plus added fistfuls of cash. The result? "It was not productive. One woman requested $2 million, Bloom said, then decided not to come forward. Nor did any other women." (Worth reading the full thread)

twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1046056287929356289

Much like any man can be a potential rapist, shouldn't we accept that any accuser could be a potential liar?

Well, no.

From the article...

This is not because of any political dictum like “Believe women.” It’s because this story looks exactly like tens of thousands of date rapes that happen every year, and nothing at all like a false rape accusation.

The point of the article is to show that those who make false allegations share a set of consistent traits. In the absence of any of those traits, it's fair to assume the person making the allegation is telling the truth.

That's a cracking article, thanks.

“Much like any man can be a potential rapist, shouldn't we accept that any accuser could be a potential liar?”

Oh, most certainly!

In fact, some insurance companies already do this: my 80+ year old MIL had a report from the fire brigade to say her washing machine must not be used, yet was told by her insurance company: “We know your sort!”

Less for the police to investigate, too, if every accusation of theft, criminal damage, assault (by anyone on anyone), fraud etc. is regarded as a pack of lies until proven otherwise.

Or did you just mean sexual offences?