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The Guardian on Karen White - finally ...

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Latinista · 09/09/2018 20:22

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/09/sexual-assaults-in-womens-prison-reignite-debate-over-transgender-inmates-karen-white?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Unbelievable that “previous offending history” was not taken into account. How can there be no sanction over this? It’s a totally unacceptable position. A Prison Services apology and insistence that “the safety of all prisoners must be our absolute priority” is surely inadequate.

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Wanderabout · 10/09/2018 10:50

By 'pieces on transgender issues draw in the, er, transphobes' you mean 'pieces on why women's rights should be removed and they should shut up about it are silenced by the Guardian by suggesting anyone pointing out the issues is a bigot and shutting down discussion'.

deepwatersolo · 10/09/2018 14:09

Their policy seems to be to close comments on anything that attracts a large number of hostile comments.

But was it really that bad? The Eurocrisisblog (2011-2014? it was somewhen renamed) with its debates was incredibly educational, due to commenters who were Euro-Lawyers, economists... I really learned a lot (and read Steve Keens and Picketty, thanks to commenters' recommendations). You had the Greek vs German spats speckeld in, but even that was rarely so rude as to warrant moderation, and in fact helped understand the various sides.

The most censored thing I remember was probably during the Gaza bombings of 2014, but even then there was informative (even though heated) exchange of ideas and opinions. Learned a lot there, too. If something like that is too heated for them now, ok, but there are lots of other political topics that would attract comments more akin to the Eurocrisis. But even there, comment sections usually don't even open these days.

Italiangreyhound · 10/09/2018 16:18

@TooMuchPenis I always used to dislike the American leticiuous
(spelling?) society now I feel maybe that is the way to deal with schools, which allow children to be bullied and harmed while in their care. Plus of course prisons which put women in danger. And of course prisons which put trans people in danger, male or female, trans or otherwise prisoners should be kept safe. I think there should be trans wings on male prisons for males who need them and if the need arrives for trans men to be imprisoned separately, which I would say is a good idea, they would be able to access trans wings.

Everyone should be safe.

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