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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rapist transgender woman says child abuse case is a load of bollocks

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Confusedandlostagain · 06/09/2018 18:14

Sorry if this has already been posted but I couldn’t see anything.

Person is currently serving a 14 year sentence for rape of a 12 year in 2011 and is in court for new allegations which they claim is a load of bollocks in which a girl has bravely came forwarded in the fact that she was abused by them/they at 7 years old onwards. Although I’m confused as to why the new charge is assault with penetration when the penetration was done by a penis which I thought was exclusively a male crime so I’m hoping someone with more knowledge can explain as I thought rape with penetration was by objects and the charge of rape was done by a penis.
Link to article [[https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/06/rapist-transgender-woman-says-new-child-abuse-case-is-a-load-of-bks-7919870/?ito=article.tablet.share.top.link]

I’ve tried to avoid using pronouns and referring to them as they as I don’t want to fall foul of mn misgendering rules and I’m hoping there is some sense amongst the ramble there.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 06/09/2018 18:19

Are they in prison?

Women's prison?

Article doesn't say.

Just reading about the rapist locked in with teh women who has assualted some of them,

Where the fuck has common sense gone.

Confusedandlostagain · 06/09/2018 18:38

They are currently in prison at the moment but don’t know if they are being housed in the female estate although I hope not.
I was reading about the rapist too and it seems like some people have lost common sense when people get to identify into womanhood but without the problems that woman face. It’s a bloody farce.

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arranfan · 06/09/2018 18:46

HMP Little Hey (reported elsewhere). Category C male prison - previously had a burst of publicity when Max Clifford was imprisoned there.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Littlehey

Confusedandlostagain · 06/09/2018 18:57

Thank you arranfan. I wasn’t sure but I’m glad they are still housed in the men’s prison.

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Ereshkigal · 06/09/2018 18:58

HMP Littlehey was reported as having 11 sex offender MTF trans inmates last year.

VickyEadie · 06/09/2018 19:01

HMP Littlehey was reported as having 11 sex offender MTF trans inmates last year.

I wonder if someone who can do statistics could number crunch the odds on that, in terms of occurrence within the general population?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 06/09/2018 19:08

Glad to hear they are in a mens prison.

Fucking ridiculus that it would even be a question.

Women have been sounding the creepy weirdo alert for ages about self ID >>

They are fucking things up for the old school transsexuals as well.

Confusedandlostagain · 06/09/2018 19:23

Wish I could help with the stastitics but I’m rubbish at maths so hopefully another mnetter will help.

Yes it becomes a mad world when you have to confirm if people are in the right prison that corresponds with their biological sex. I thought our likes and dislikes were down to personality traits but it turns out it’s because we either have pink or blue brains sarcasm alert.

Yes it’s pity the old transsexuals are getting pushed under the bus to conform with the woke brigade of transgenders and its going to leave those who suffer from sex dysphoria in distress and unable to access help as if it’s not a medical illness then the nhs has no obligations to treat them.

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BreakWindandFire · 06/09/2018 19:32

Women can be convicted of rape as an accessory, but legally can't rape, which has to be penetration with a penis.

If someone is raped with an object other than a penis (eg a stick), it's termed assault by penetration, which can carry the same sentence of up to life imprisonment.

So this person could be charged with this crime as it is alleged they raped a child with something other than their penis. Or potentially they could be legally a woman and this is the charge laid against them? I don't think the latter issue has come up before so I don't know.

FermatsTheorem · 06/09/2018 19:33

Although I’m confused as to why the new charge is assault with penetration when the penetration was done by a penis which I thought was exclusively a male crime so I’m hoping someone with more knowledge can explain as I thought rape with penetration was by objects and the charge of rape was done by a penis.

If I'm reading the article correctly, the offence Gary was convicted of was rape. The "assault by penetration" refers to the new allegations Gary is charged with - so presumably Gary did not use Gary's penis in this instance, but something else. (Sorry - what follows is horrible, read no further if you are likely to be upset. I believe that happens sometimes even with non-trans-identifying males: because rape is about power and cruelty rather than sex, it sometimes happens that the rapist cannot get it up and resorts to an object instead - because the intention is to get off on the pain and suffering caused to the victim, rather than the sexual act itself.)

Confusedandlostagain · 06/09/2018 19:44

Thank you to those explaining as I thought perhaps they had used their penis but as they say they are a “woman” and woman technically cannot rape with a penis that’s why they had been charged with penetration by assault which seems wrong to me. But I see what you mean as it’s not the act of sex itself, it’s often the power that gets them off and the weapon may not have been their penis but rather an object. The article doesn’t make it clear.

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Ereshkigal · 06/09/2018 21:13

Yes it's also what people who say "it never happens because hormones mean you can't get erect" should bear in mind.

OlennasWimple · 06/09/2018 23:31

Yes, good point Ereshkigal

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