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Caring for Transgender Kids: Is Clinical Practice Outpacing the Science?

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 22:39

Noticed this is being shared on Twitter.
Article on transgender children aimed at medics.
I can only access the first page, but the comments from healthcare professionals are worth looking at!

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CircleofWillis · 03/09/2018 22:45

Just the medline page comes up when I click on the link. Do you have a direct link to article or can to summarise and screenshot comments?

carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 22:50

Huh. Link is direct for me.

Will show you what I can see:

So this is the first page of the article -

Caring for Transgender Kids: Is Clinical Practice Outpacing the Science?

Becky McCall, BSc, MSc; Lisa Nainggolan

August 28, 2018

In the year leading up to March 2018, the Tavistock Centre—the United Kingdom's only National Health Service (NHS)–funded clinic to treat gender dysphoria in children—received a record number of referrals: 2500, a 25% increase from the previous year and a 50-fold increase from 12 years ago.[1]

Managing issues related to transition between the sexes is central to the work of the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the Tavistock Centre, where a striking and intriguing change has occurred in both the volume and type of patients being referred.

This vast expansion in referral numbers serves as a barometer of the changes going on in society today. Once the subjects of prejudice and rejection, people with gender dysphoria are experiencing an astonishing shift in recent years in societal attitudes toward gender identity issues.

However, the demand for care still far outstrips the evidence-based medicine to support it, stirring debate around blocking puberty and altering fertility. Similarly, the surge in number of patients far exceeds the number of endocrinologists who possess the ability and confidence to manage them.

Indeed, the Tavistock Centre treads a fine line between those who feel that more should be done for people with gender dysphoria and those who object to any intervention that alters birth gender.
Gender Dysphoria Sits at a Complex Crossroads

Sarah Davidson, PhD, is a consultant clinical psychologist who has worked at the Centre for 12 years. She says that gender dysphoria lies at the intersection of a patient's relationship with his or her family, the sociocultural context, and the implications of gender identity in child development, including physical and mental health. "Gender has always had huge implications for power, expression, and sociocultural norms, hence its importance."

In managing gender dysphoria, Davidson emphasizes that in the balance lies the individuals' happiness with their gender identity and mental health, as well as complex medical and delicate social issues around preventing natural puberty and making life-changing decisions regarding fertility.

Reflecting on these issues and the paucity of data, leading US pediatric endocrinologist Stephen Rosenthal, MD, from the University of California San Francisco, says, "Not intervening is not an option, and saying that we can't do anything until we have the data means we will never do anything and never have the data.

"On the one hand, it's important to do the best we can with the information available. On the other, it is the responsibility of academic centers to conduct progressive research to discover what is best for our patients."

Surge in Referrals and Switch to Majority Trans-Males

The statistics alone tell an intriguing tale of how the number of referrals is rising and how the patient demographic has and is continuing to transform, although no concrete reasons exist to explain why this is happening.

Davidson points out that if "we make something into a phenomenon, then naturally we might recognize it in ourselves or our children. People are seeing this in places where it was not seen previously."

More fascinating still is the dramatic switch in natal gender being referred. Natal female referrals for gender dysphoria have grown from 42% of the total in 2009-2010 to 72% in 2017-2018.[1,2]

"It has absolutely shifted," says Davidson. "In the under-11-years referral group, the split is still 50/50 boy-girl referral. But there has been a change in the adolescent population." Now, the majority of teens they see are trans-males (female-to-male transition).

She also highlights the diversity of referrals, pointing out that some people decide they would rather be nonbinary and not transition, or be homosexual.

Approximately 11% of referred adolescents use labels such as "gender neutral" or "gender fluid," and, in general, referrals are an increasingly heterogeneous group that includes those who would not have previously presented at gender services.

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 22:57

All these are apparently from healthcare professionals (although am omitting the names)

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 22:58

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 22:59

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 23:01

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 23:03

However, DEFINITELY NOT all the comments are worthy of applause or consideration. There are at least a couple of commenters who appear to be straying into actual homophobia/overt anti-LGBT sentiments.

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NotBadConsidering · 03/09/2018 23:13

I receive these articles. Comments on Medscape are often a bit mad, particularly the US-based physicians. But I think generally doctors are mostly on the “do no harm” side. That’s why I was disappointed with the guidelines out of RCH Melbourne.

Apollo440 · 03/09/2018 23:16

This was interesting comment from a doctor and exactly why research shouldn't be suppressed. Is this suggesting that there is an increased risk of suicidal behaviour but after sex reassignment?

Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behavior, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 23:17

I was interested to find out there's apparently a whole group of scientists online talking about this:
A group of clinicians and physicians has been congregating online to discuss our concern over the sudden rise in transgender self-diagnosis among young people and the rush to send them toward medical intervention as a result of the affirmation only model of care that is recommended by many of the professional organizations. We count among us some of the foremost researchers and clinicians who deal with gender dysphoria. Please feel free to join us at our website. We welcome comments and blog posts, and are willing to receive both anonymously given the current climate where many who speak out fear retaliation. gdworkinggroup.org/

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 23:29

Apollo440
I think that one is the so-called "Swedish Study" which looked at group of fully legally/medically transitioned transsexuals and compared them to the general population.
The results tell you there is still an elevated risk of suicide for transsexuals compared to the general population, even after they transition.
It doesn't look at mental health in people who have gender dysphoria but never transition versus those who fully transition.
So I think it's meant to tell us that transition (in and of itself) is not really enough to fully get rid of the increased risk of poor mental health in transsexual individuals.
In my opinion, the study is a pretty convincing argument for more research and ongoing involvement of medics in helping such people.

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Thingybob · 04/09/2018 00:28

carceralfeminist

However, DEFINITELY NOT all the comments are worthy of applause or consideration. There are at least a couple of commenters who appear to be straying into actual homophobia/overt anti-LGBT sentiments

Although about 90% of these health professionals do seem to have serious reservations about the diagnosis and treatment of 'Transgender kids'

Why do the powers that be listen to self appointed experts rather than real experts?

carceralfeminism · 04/09/2018 00:48

Yes, it does seem to bust the myth that all scientists/doctors are firmly behind the trans activist ideas. The comments I have re-produced are useful to witness that there is skepticism.
But wanted to do a quick PSA that the words are not mine, and I do not condone all of the comments.

Caring for Transgender Kids: Is Clinical Practice Outpacing the Science?
carceralfeminism · 04/09/2018 00:49

(The ones I found particularly distasteful will not be reproduced here by me..)

JellySlice · 04/09/2018 00:59

Why have you redacted the names? Did they include professional qualifications/jobs/roles? It would have been interesting to see the backgrounds/areas of expertise.

carceralfeminist · 04/09/2018 01:16

Felt it was better not to publish the names here. They're being pretty brave for speaking out and if there is some strange reason I can access the first page/comments but others can't, then better safe than sorry.

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carceralfeminist · 04/09/2018 01:22

....and apologies for namechange fail.
But I can tell you that there were a range of professions: psychology, registered nurse, family doctor, psychiatry, paediatrics, anaesthesiology.

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