Feminist equivalent of this LGBT GRA response?

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I need a response to this but can't find any equivalent for what the GRA means to biological women. Anyone know of one?

Step-by-step guidance for some of the questions
fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/FPFW-printable-guide-1.pdf

Comprehensive guide
fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/

Thanks.. I'd hoped there would be something short of a similar kind to the LGBT one. The One you've suggested is great and very comprehensive but need a quick social media response.

The 2004 GRA was designed specifically for transexual people with the medical condition Gender Dysphoria.

Here is a quote (from Hansard) from the original debate in the Lords, 2004:

we are talking about only 5,000 people in Britain. That is why this is such a unique and specific set of circumstances. This is one of the smallest minorities in our society

When the law was created in 2004, everybody was clear transvestites, cross dressers, men with sexual fetishes etc were not the same as transexuals with gender dysphoria.

Trans now means transgender not just trans^sexual* and this much larger group does include people we previously called transvestites & fetishists, along with people transitioning for a variety of reasons other than medically diagnosable gender dysphoria.

This law was never meant for those other groups, and government has not debated what the effect of that wider group having access to GRCs would be, nor what the effect would be of hundreds of thousands of people, potentially, getting a GRC would be on society, rather than the originally intended 5,000. (The GRA consultation is using an estimate of 200,000 - 500,000 trans & NB people in society).

It's disingenuous to frame this as a simple administrative change when the goalposts have been moved so far as to make this a different game entirely.

I agree we need this in a one pager.

Oh sorry, short you said!

I'll have another go...

It's disingenuous to frame this as a simple administrative change when the goalposts have been moved so far as to make this a different game entirely.

Agree entirely.

Shorter but not jest tweet sized! The kids are calling, maybe someone else fan have a go?!...

The government are proposing changing the number and type of people eligible to get a GRC. The 2004 GRA was aimed specifically at transexuals with gender dysphoria (estimated 5,000 people).

This proposal is to make this law apply not only to transexuals, but also to transvestites, cross dressers, fetishists etc, all of whom come under the modern definition of trans (the governments estimates 200,000 - 500,000 people in this larger group).

This is a significant change to the intended purpose of this law. It's not simply an administrative change. It needs proper debate and for the impact on society (especially women and girls) to be assessed.

jest?! That should say yet!

Not quite one page, but a bit shorter than the FPFW one

sages.org.uk/publications/pdfs/Quick-facts-Sex-gender-and-equal-rights-SAGES-2017.pdf

If there is anyway of using LGBT format it is much easier for people to read... point by point, rather than paragraphs.... will reach more people by making it simple

1 Current system complies with international human rights law
2 Current system less complex than other admin systems for disability/other legal support
3 Current system includes limited gatekeeping to forestall exploitation

Mtf

4 Current process is not expensive or exclusive
5 Persistence determined by experts to be demonstrated after two years
6 Gender/sex dysphoria requires medical diagnosis

7 Biological sex remains important determinant of discrimination, vulnerability, access to rights and exploitation
8 Biological sex a more important determinant and cause of above than gender identity
9 No clear agreed definition of gender identity
10 No clear agreed definition of non-binary
11 No alternative definition of man, woman, male and female on which to base rights and discrimination legislation

12 Self ID severely impacts Equality Act protections for women
13 Self ID leaves women and girls with no recourse to complaint over boundary violations up to and including crimes

14 Multiple examples of exploitation by males of access to areas where females are vulnerable (citations available)
15 Data shows convicted sex offenders more likely to be trans than male inmates convicted of non-sex crimes
16 Female victims of rape and domestic violence re-traumatised by sharing shower and bed space with male-bodied people

Awesome Charlie. Going to bookmark for future reference.

For what it's worth, and I'll probably post this elsewhere, yesterday a male gp friend pointedly said to me (before I tried any slipping into general convo- we've discussed gender stereotypes before) "I'm really very concerned about this self ID thing".

I should have asked more about why (and will next time) but told him about stickerwoman and the fiasco in the Green Party.

From a medical POV there are biological sex linked concerns regarding some medications and treatments etc (ie out come is sex specific) which could impact treatment of individuals. Worth adding?

good work there Charlie

Great to read all this. Really really useful. And both the bullet points and the essay are so helpful. I can use both in different ways. Charlie would you mind if I put your points into an a4 poster?

I'm not an intellectual but really passionate about this and just want too be able to make cogent clear points when discussing with friends given that about 50 % of my mates are in the LGBT community and I'm not. I love them but am a feminist and can really see the impact the GRA will have. I'm really concerned about it.

This law was never meant for those other groups, and government has not debated what the effect of that wider group having access to GRCs would be, nor what the effect would be of hundreds of thousands of people, potentially, getting a GRC would be on society, rather than the originally intended 5,000.

Well put.

The current system means that females and people with a diagnosis of gender dysphoria can, in law, be deemed to be female
The proposed system means that anyone who wants to be, can, in law, be deemed female
The current system means provides for those with a diagnosed condition
The proposed system renders the category ‘women’ meaningless.

Please use I would be flattered tbh

When we were kids we used to say to each other a lot 'you're just saying that' and that is my response to a lot of TRA assertions. They're just making stuff up half the time.

Thanks Charlie

Can I offer a very simplified version?
What is the Gender Recognition Act?
This was a piece of legislation intended to create a "legal fiction" to make post-op transsexuals' lives easier. Transsexuals, numbering about 5000 people, could get a certificate after medical assessment, and could then legally change their passport, birth certificate etc.
What is being proposed today?
To scrap any medical assessments and to allow people to legally become the opposite sex (or neither sex, or both) based on their self-image
What does this mean for women and girls
Sex is a "protected characteristic" under the Equality Act, like race, age, or disability. If any man is allowed to become a woman by filling in a form online, any man can be in female changing rooms, hostels, Guide camp, or prison cells. There would be no legal way to stop him.
But these trans women have had surgery, right?
Nope, between 80% and 95% retain their penis, this is based on self-reporting surveys.
How many people are in this new category?
Up to half a million people are estimated to be in this category, a huge increase on the original 5000 post-op transsexuals.
What about sport?
Sports authorities are jumping the gun on this, forcing mixed changing and male-bodied people in women's sports. The result is female athletes unable to compete, and in some cases hurt.
Do women try to access men's spaces?
No, but there are reports of gay men being harassed on dating apps by trans men (men born female). Likewise, lesbians are being called "transphobic" if they do not consider male-bodied people as sexual partners.
Anything else I should know about?
Also the number of children aiming to change sex by use of surgery and hormones has quintupled. Most are girls, which is a recent change. Research into why this has changed has been suppressed by trans rights activists.