I need to rant

[carceralfeminist]

I call BULLSHIT.
Extremist trans activists (TRAs) are self-appointed narcissists who do not represent trans people.
None of them give a shit about safeguarding women, transsexuals or children.
None of them care about democratic principles, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of assembly, or the rights of other people to self-determination.
They certainly don't care about the privacy, dignity and comfort of others.

TRAs are campaigning for the ability for any and all middle-aged biological males to say "I identify as a woman" whenever they like, be called by feminine pronouns at all times, coerce everyone into unquestioningly play along, take up women's places in politics, have free access to female single-sex spaces, and for rapists to be transferred to women's prisons...
Without any consideration as to how that might affect women.
Without any form of gatekeeping or checks in place.
Without any ability for women to challenge people if/when self-ID gets abused by genuinely dangerous individuals pretending to be trans like Christopher Hambrook.
Why was David Challenor so in favour of self-ID? Would he count as trans, given his penchant for being called a girl and cross-dressing (which now falls under the trans umbrella according to Stonewall)? Why do TRAs care more about the Challenors than the 10-year old rape and torture victim?

We only needed ONE Jimmy Savile to abuse hundreds of innocent victims, who were disbelieved and smeared. So we are urging caution. We want clear rules NOW, before women's boundaries get even more blurred. Transsexuals want clear definitions of who is trans before their identities get hijacked, and their image tarnished by the actions of someone truly psychopathic.

If someone like Ian Huntley is allowed to transition under self-ID and given unfettered access to women's facilities, does ANYONE really think the public will look favourably on this?

Feminists do not want not allow this scenario to happen.

There must be a way to safeguard both the trans cause and women's rights. We must have this conversation NOW. Removing checks and balances, and the ever-widening trans umbrella, is ringing deafeningly loud alarm bells ...

Women are trained to pick up on dangerous misogyny. Extremist trans activism is exactly what it looks like.

Women are telling TRAs - this is a bad idea.
Transsexuals are telling TRAs - this is a bad idea.
Even some gay men are now openly telling TRAs - this is a bad idea.
The British Psychological Society told TRAs - this is a bad idea.

But TRAs do not listen.

TRAs prioritize the rights of any biological male to claim he (but then she) is trans and demand access to women's identity/space/political movement SO MUCH that they implicitly support ALL of this against the women who are trying to engage in the democratic process of the country and discuss safeguarding concerns with any legal changes:

-bomb threat
-assault
-gathering the data of 50000 women who are deemed so inhuman they must be blocked from the public arena
-menacing protestors
-venues harassed
-constant violent online intimidation including graphic death and rape threats
-doxxing of the users of an anonymous parenting forum
-silencing of reporting on, political secrecy around, and alleged protection of public individuals accused of seriously concerning behaviour
-criminal investigation of a removable sticker that says "Women Don't Have Penises," but COMPLETE SILENCE when it comes to the permanent defacement of a Grade 1 listed building
-private prosecution of a feminist for saying she would use self-defense against those trying physically threaten her in the wake of the Hyde Park assault, by a person who wasn't even present at the meeting that said feminist spoke at
-private prosecution of another feminist for putting the speech of the first feminist on the internet
-banning of research
-silencing of academics and threatening their jobs for uttering anything that doesn't follow the orthodoxy.

"Right side of history?"

Who else used these kinds of methods to harass their ideological opponents?

And people wonder why women are so angry?

To the extremist trans rights activists (TRAs):
You've all shown us who you are.
You've shown us who you care about - yourselves.
You keep trying to spin the situation.
But we see what is happening.
This is what is actually going on.
In the "democratic" United Kingdom.
In the name of a cause you have stolen from the very people you claim to care about.

All of this - being defended by so-called "progressives."

Well done.

Well put. It's a middle class men's rights movement.

You articulated well my outrage at these goings on and people's duplicity, as well as putting their and their organisations reputation ahead of the welfare of women and children who continuously and unrelentingly are put in harms way by the withholding of sensible safeguarding frameworks - where organisations and people walk the talk not just talk the talk.

It's not rocket science as I keep saying. Honestly, I am torn between are these people all so thick/narcissistic /blind or just indifferent - it's a gross travesty of justice on a number of fronts and many are still pretending there's nothing happening here - hear no evil, see no evil ....

Women and children are the collateral damage whilst others use them for their own ends. We as the whistle-blowers are hounded in real life, on here as on all social media. Our words and behaviour are policed instead of the perpetrators. It really is an outrage where everyone is picking on us, not those committing the crimes when all we're trying to do is out the truth and save some lives. They know not what they do.......

Awesome rant, I trust you’ve sent to your MP?

I don't understand why people who claim to identify as women hate women so much.

Agree with every word

gathering the data of 50000 women who are deemed so inhuman they must be blocked from the public arena

Do you mean "chose not to hear from your Twitter handle" ?

I ended up on that list too. I still tweet. It's not particularly limiting.

Totally agree with the OP. In every single thing she said about these anti woman bigots.

I don't understand why people who claim to identify as women hate women so much.

And (in so many of their cases) have absolutely zero empathy for what concerns women.

You are 100% right. All this is outright attack on women and children’s safety. They have been skilled in their approach. Outright threats physical attacks and silencing opposition. Now trying to move into legislation. It’s fascism.

Well said OP, well said.

Thanks for the comments.

Going on another tirade now....

This is the tragedy of the whole thing:

I would have zero interest in this subject - NONE - if the TRAs would stop force-feeding queer theory onto the public, let biological sex be acknowledged as simple fact, lesbians allowed to keep their sexual orientation without verbal molestation (yes, being told to re-examine your orientation in order to accept someone else's penis because they identify as a woman is a form of abuse), been VERY cautious about children (ideally left them completely alone and let the research grow organically), allowed those who want to organize around biological sex to do so, and let women have conversations/organizations/language that is only about females as a sex... There would be no controversy around the GRA if a variety of voices were allowed to speak freely, women were consulted as key stakeholders, and dissenting transsexuals heard.

There would be no reason for women to examine the TRAs in this movement if they had kept a clean house and not allowed characters like Jess Bradley/the Challenor family rise to prominence without vetting. We wouldn't have to question the claims TRAs are making if we could see they had solid evidence. We wouldn't have to be so paranoid if we weren't being threatened and can actually see the silencing going on in politics/the liberal media. We wouldn't have to do wonder about anything if the people in power had simply done due diligence.

It fucks me right off.

If the TRAs have their way, we won't even be able to NAME the problem of male violence - yes, the sex-class - and keep the vulnerable (mainly women and children) safe from it using systems that at seem to work okay.

And they DARE try to pull the "what about the lesbians in your spaces" card.............

The vast majority of respondents who had experienced rape or assault by penetration since they were 16 reported that the offender(s) were male (99%), with 65% of victims reporting that the offender was a male aged between 20 and 39.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/sexualoffencesinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2017#reporting-of-sexual-assault-by-rape-or-penetration

I do not understand why everyone is capitulating to these increasingly illogical demands.
It is for the people asserting these things to back up their claims, and they really haven't proven anything apart from the fact that people have the right to believe whatever they want, free from abuse.
That's true.

But TRAs do not have the right to coerce the rest of society to validate all of their beliefs, unquestioningly, at any cost.

Nobody has that kind of right.

12thGuelph
Your pattern has become obvious to everyone now.

I'm sorry?

thebewilderness is a wise, wise woman OP, hear her roar!

Good post Acorn, nail on head I'd say.

Hope you don't mind me using this OP.

On Twitter explaining to a woke beardy bro why being pro woman doesn't make me transphobic. Also why we're so fucking angry.

Excellent points, well made!

Calling it a rant (in the title) does you a disservice though - these are well researched and well reasoned points.

I, like you, would’ve been happy to never have had to get involved in this - but the activists pushed so hard, even the live and live live types like me noticed the red flags.

In the past, the term trans woman has always specifically referred to transexual women with a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. It's awful that people without gender dysphoria have co-opted the term 'trans woman' from gender dysphoric people. In effect, they have co-opted a medical condition that they don't suffer from!

Exactly this. And it will have significant consequences for both the trans movement and women.

TriptychTwins
Go ahead. I just needed to get my thoughts off my chest. What's happening to women right really feels like increasing anger from this sustained abuse.

He's still not answered me. I think his head's probably still reeling

Hopefully regretting jumping on the first woke wagon that rolled past.

thebewilderness