Why I suggest to use incorrect pronouns

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ReefKnot
an hour ago
The reality is the speaker decides what language to use e.g. which pronoun, not the listener.
Otherwise the listener eventually gets to police what the speaker may or may not say, which eventually leads to the listener controlling what thoughts the speaker may or may not have - which must not be allowed to stand

Just read this and thought this nails it. In real life with my trans friends and those at work I am more than happy to be polite with pronouns but I reject being forced to give those behaving badly the same grace.

Bloody spellcheck! Why I resist not suggest

Yes same.

This is also basically Jordan Peterson's stance.

I'll be polite if I feel like it and occasionally pander but I will not be forced into a) saying things I don't believe and b) saying things that aren't true.

And I won't pander to perverts either.

Yes! The name a person wishes to be known by is for that person to determine and I'm fine with that.

Pronouns are not the 'property' of any individual person, however.

I was thinking about this earlier. This sort of policing actually doesn't help anyone anyway. The majority of people continue to think 'he' but just don't talk about that person because it's all too confusing and annoying and people really don't care about random others enough to be arsed with 'zie', or 'they' or, actually, 'she' for someone who is clearly 'he'. It's just hard work.

And is there anything worse for pronoun policing people than not being talked about?

I think I'm resistant to being told what to do in general tbf but policing language is the first step to policing thought.

If you believe that a transwoman is still a male, then the correct pronoun is 'he'

Definition of he
1: that male one who is neither speaker nor hearer - he is my father

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/he

They're bastardising personal pronouns in the same way they're trying to bastardise the word 'woman'

Totally agree. Words belong to the person who speaks them. The listener gets to choose whether to engage with that person. I avoid people who litter their sentences with random expletives. My choice.

For some reason It reminds me of that employment case where a woman wouldn't shake hands with men for religious reasons, so she chose not to shake hands with anyone so that she wasn't discriminating against men. We apply pronouns in a consistent non discriminatory way.