Reading material suggestions for 17 yr old ds

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I’ve been a lurker on the feminist threads for a while but I’ve never posted. However my ds - who is 17, nearly 18 - and I have been having some quite heated discussions lately around the whole trans topic.
I’ve tried to explain my point of view, but he really doesn’t get it.
I’ve raised him and his brother on my own since dh died, and I’m surprised at the amount of male privilege he still seems to somehow just have.....or is it that teenagers are all just super woke and right on?
I suggested he have a read of some of the threads on here to gain an insight to another point of view, but he’s not interested at all, so I wondered if anyone had any suggestions of anything he could look at to perhaps enlighten him a little as to why women are feeling increasingly concerned? Nothing too heavy as I suspect he’d not bother then - given that he’s convinced he’s right!

Not reading, but he could watch Nanette on Netflix. A good way to start conversations.

I just don't think getting him to read something is going to cause any radical change in his thinking. He has no external POV, and he isn't interested in learning about other people's lives.

He might change his thinking with experience. Some men seem to find having a daughter makes them realise that the problems we talk about aren't just made up or theoretical. But you can't force it.

If he's willing to read, you could try Be A Man by Chris Hemming

www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Man-Chris-Hemmings-ebook/dp/B0741T2WGT/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=be+a+man&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1535372592&sr=8-2

(No idea if that link will work/be allowed, sorry!)

It's kind of a stealth intro to feminism, when I read it I thought it would be quite good for younger men. Kinda like Abigail brother's perspective when he's grown up and "gets it".

A big, not Abigail. Sheesh.

How not to be a boy - Robert Webb is good.

If he is into science fiction / dystopian

The Handmaids Tale - Margaret Atwood
Divergent - Veronica Roth - film is currently available on Netflix
The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula Le Guin

To add to the fiction list, Vox by Christina Dalcher is just out - if Handmaid's seems "too literary" or "too old fashioned" then Vox is what you want. It's a near-future dystopian thriller which starts with the premise that women are restricted to 100 spoken words a day; writing or signing is forbidden and all women must stay at home.

I'd recommend it to you all, actually, lots of food for thought on restricted speech.

Actually I’ve just started “Vox”, so I’ll see how I get in with it and then pass it on to him maybe.
I completely agree UpstartCrow , but in the absence of any better ideas, I figured it was better than nothing

I'd love to know what you think of it! There were some bits that didn't quite work for me, but overall I enjoyed it (as much as you can enjoy any dystopia without sinking into depression, anyhow). I had similar feelings about Naomi Alderman's The Power, too.

Suggest he watches a few Magdalen Berns videos. She's brilliant.

I love this one on the difference between intersectional "feminism" and actual feminism, but suggest you explore her channel and see which you think might appeal to him / make your point.