Endocrinologist predicts wave of suicides among children blindly affirmed as transgender

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*Many gender clinics in the US are working with young children who are at risk of suicide because of deeply psychological issues presenting as gender dysphoria.
But in his own work as a medically trained “healer” who has dealt with children and young people struggling with their gender identities, Dr Van Meter said children needed ongoing, intensive counselling rather than harmful hormone therapies.
“I’ve not seen a single transgender patient who has not had a significant amount of undercurrent psychological issues,” he said.
Dr Van Meter recommended further study into a program by Toronto psychologist Dr Kenneth Zucker, who took children with gender dysphoria through more than 20 years of counselling and found a majority were able to “cure” the psychological wounds.
“Now the ones that went through the Zucker program, two per cent of boys remained transgender at the end of intense counselling, and about twelve per cent, ten per cent of females, ended up being persistent,” Dr Van Meter said.
“So instead we’re pushing for affirmation of one hundred per cent of the kids, not two per cent or twelve per cent, and what we’re going to see in twenty or thirty years from now is a wave of suicides that we have never experienced.”

Dr Van Meter said children, especially those taking cross-sex hormones, were prone to thromboembolic disease, strokes, some heart disease and cancers that were related to wrong hormones being introduced into the body.
He said this was not the duty of care paediatricians pledged when they undertook their medical studies.
“You make the child into an adult who is diseased for the rest of their life,” Dr Van Meter said.
“You’ve taken out the essence of biologic female and damaged it irreparably, thrown the patient at risk for diseases they would not have had otherwise and call that a solution and a cure?
“I’m thinking, people of science, open your eyes and just look – this is a set of standards that does not apply to the rest of medical science.
“We’re going to have so many kids who are physically altered.
“My heart aches so badly to see this happening.
“I can’t keep quiet, so I’m talking.”*

catholicleader.com.au/news/endocrinologist-predicts-wave-of-suicides-among-children-blindly-affirmed-as-transgender

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catholicleader.com.au/news/endocrinologist-predicts-wave-of-suicides-among-children-blindly-affirmed-as-transgender

What you’ve quoted sounds almost like common sense. However he ends the article by blaming the devil,

And as a devout Catholic, Dr Van Meter can only point the blame toward one thing.
“If I put my faith hat on, I’m thinking, ‘Okay, the devil is at work in society, deconstructing society on purpose’,” he said.
“That’s what the devil does, the dark side, call it what you will.”

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This is not our ally.

The fact the guy has a religious belief that you don't agree with doesn't make every other thing he says invalid. FGS does everything have to be black or white, good or bad, ally or enemy? Aren't adults supposed to have grown out of that?

What stands out a mile for me reading those quotes is that it's girls in massive majority being treated with hormones likely to do immense lifetime damage to them. Girls who will form the majority of the suicides he predicts.

I agree Knick. Does seeing the term 'Catholic' negate any point made? That in itself is bigotry, IMO. Catholics and other religious people believe in Hell, the Devil. Ergo Fascists.

But believing men can become women, and if you disagree YOU are a fascist.

Quite the extrapolation/assumption/projection there, Knicknack. You’ve no idea what my religious beliefs are, and I said nothing about invalidating other points, or anything being black and white.

Do you think it’s useful to stand with someone who is saying transgender ideology is the devil’s work? Implying transgender people are inherently evil, in a religious sense.

I don’t, is all. Didn’t say that I disagreed with every point in the article. Just that, from reading the link, I don’t believe this is a useful person/article to wave in ‘our’ (gender critical feminists) support.

Knicknackpaddyflak, a personally held religious belief in and of itself does not invalidate a conclusion. However, clearly stating it in the context of the article in an attempt to lend support to the conclusion as well as the source 'publication' does put question marks over the motivations of the author. Furthermore, Dr Meter is an endocrinologist and so, while well qualified to comment on the endocrinological effects of hormone therapy, perhaps isn't the best direct source for comment on psychological issues.

Dr Van Meter, medically trained "healer".

I don't think that article uses best practice for discussing suicide. The headline and the focus of the article could have been on supporting non gender conforming children with therapy, and the long term effects of meds.

www.samaritans.org/media-centre/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide

Oh my post didn't post. Must have been when site was down a little earlier.

Also gave an eyebrow at "healer " and said I agree with cwen

Although I know it's not v popular to think like that on mn at the mo

This was the guy who was blocked from talking at the University of Western Australia in Perth by trans activists last week. Whether you agree or disagree with his religious views, the fact he was blocked was another example of #nodebate.

I wouldn't rule someone's medical views out because they were of a particular religious view.

Some Catholic leaders were some of the very few who spoke up against the awful things the Nazi regime were doing to disabled children. So you can't assume someone is going to be on the wrong side of history simply because they hold Catholic beliefs.

Is this a qualified medical doctor rather than a 'healer'? If so I can't see why their medical views should be any less valid than a Buddhist, Atheist, or Protestant doctor for eg.

If he is an endocrinologist then he has expertise to comment on the impact of some of the medication on children. He is also referring to another doctor who has different experience and expertise to his in this area.

Does "two per cent of boys remained transgender at the end of intense counselling" not sound dodgy to you?

Furthermore, Dr Meter is an endocrinologist and so, while well qualified to comment on the endocrinological effects of hormone therapy, perhaps isn't the best direct source for comment on psychological issues.

Haha go tell that to the Endocrine Society who regularly weigh in on all these issues.

I wouldn't rule someone's medical views out because they were of a particular religious view.

I wouldn't either. I specifically referred to the insertion of religious views to backup a scientific claim:

“If I put my faith hat on, I’m thinking, ‘Okay, the devil is at work in society, deconstructing society on purpose’,” he said.

“That’s what the devil does, the dark side, call it what you will.”