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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Child transition: the myth of informed consent

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VickyEadie · 21/08/2018 16:14

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/child-transition-the-myth-of-informed-consent/

Very good piece by Lily Maynard here.

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TransplantsArePlants · 21/08/2018 16:41

Brilliant. Thanks for linking. I will be using this as a resource

swinkle · 21/08/2018 22:03

Bumping this. Absolutely fantastic read.

Gncq · 21/08/2018 22:36

Thanks

tiredandweary · 21/08/2018 23:47

Excellent article.
Should be compulsory reading for every bloody MP and civil servant funding this crap.

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/08/2018 07:49

Brilliant article. Should be compulsory reading for all teachers who are letting certain charities into their schools and reading ridiculous fairy stories about penguins to their young, impressionable charges.

PerverseConverse · 22/08/2018 08:28

Great article. I'd love to read something explaining WHY the number of trans children/adults has increased so much in recent years. It seems that someone experiencing great unhappiness focuses on their body and gender stereotypes and it's decided they are trans rather than actually digging deep down to find out what is really causing the unhappiness. Trans seems like a label to explain away teenage angst. Im not including those with genuine body dysphoria but I refuse to believe that such a high number of people are born into the wrong body. I hold my hands up and say I don't know much about the subject and am just starting to read around but I am very worried for today's children.

PerverseConverse · 22/08/2018 08:32

Great article. I'd love to read something explaining WHY the number of trans children/adults has increased so much in recent years. It seems that someone experiencing great unhappiness focuses on their body and gender stereotypes and it's decided they are trans rather than actually digging deep down to find out what is really causing the unhappiness. Trans seems like a label to explain away teenage angst. Im not including those with genuine body dysphoria but I refuse to believe that such a high number of people are born into the wrong body. I hold my hands up and say I don't know much about the subject and am just starting to read around but I am very worried for today's children.

PerverseConverse · 22/08/2018 08:32

Sorry, don't know why it posted twice.

Starkstaring · 22/08/2018 10:23

Perverse, you are right to be worried about children. If you are new to this subject, try 4thwavenow, especially the comments being posted by parents from across the (mainly English-speaking) world.

4thwavenow.com/

NotBadConsidering · 22/08/2018 11:09

Fantastic article

Kyanite · 22/08/2018 11:19

Conclusion

Rapid-onset gender dysphoria describes a phenomenon where the development of gender dysphoria is observed to begin suddenly during or after puberty in an adolescent or young adult who would not have met criteria for gender dysphoria in childhood. ROGD appears to represent an entity that is distinct in etiology from the gender dysphoria observed in individuals who have previously been described as transgender. It is plausible that ROGD represents an ego-syntonic maladaptive coping mechanism for some AYAs and that peer group and online influences may contribute to its development. It is unknown whether the gender dysphoria of rapid-onset gender dysphoria is temporary or likely to be long-term.

The elevated number of friends per friendship group who became transgender-identified, the pattern of cluster outbreaks of transgender-identification in these friendship groups, the substantial percentage of friendship groups where the majority of the members became transgender-identified, and the peer group dynamics observed all serve to support the plausibility of social and peer contagion for ROGD. The worsening of mental well-being and parent-child relationships and behaviors that isolate teens from their parents, families, non-transgender friends and mainstream sources of information are particularly concerning. More research is needed to better understand rapid-onset gender dysphoria, its implications, and scope.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330#sec036

Pywife2 · 22/08/2018 11:52

Well the last section is scary. I'd been wondering why politicians were so keen to speak out against 'conversion therapy', after all I couldn't imagine it happening very often any more, unless you're part of a homophobic religious sect.

It looks from this article as if conversion therapy translates as 'refusing to go along with the belief that children can change sex', or challenging that narrative in any way. Even if you're a parent.

As the writer points out, the real conversion therapy is convincing healthy, potentially gay youngsters that they should become lifelong medical patients in order to fit in with gender stereotypes.

Makes me wonder what new misogynistic horrors they are trying to sneak past us.

PerverseConverse · 22/08/2018 12:07

Is this just the new misogyny??

Starkstaring · 22/08/2018 12:52

Depends on your point of view but it definitely seems to me like the Patriarchy squishing everyone back into their "rightful" boxes, disguised as progress. Dystopian.

VickyEadie · 22/08/2018 12:54

Depends on your point of view but it definitely seems to me like the Patriarchy squishing everyone back into their "rightful" boxes, disguised as progress. Dystopian.

Correct.

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VaguelyAware · 22/08/2018 13:03

Thanks for this, OP.

Voice0fReason · 22/08/2018 21:25

Excellent resource

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 23/08/2018 08:47

Really good. Nothing to add, just thought it deserves bumping!

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