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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AIBU to say how much I love you all?

51 replies

Destinysdaughter · 20/08/2018 23:28

I’ve been reflecting about this a lot recently and I wanted to say that although this trans madness is deeply concerning and a huge threat to women’s rights, I’ve never been so heartened by the courage, intelligence, clarity, supportiveness, persistence, commitment, creativity and I want to say sheer fucking balls, but I know that’s the wrong metaphor to use in this debate ?

When I feel disheartened and defeated I just think of all the truly amazing women putting themselves on the line and it gives me so much strength.

I was in tears today reading about Magdalen Berns having cancer, and how much she’s done to move this debate forward and all the women she’s influenced. About the bravery of ManFriday, about Stickerwoman, PosieParker, DrRadFem, and everyone who’s braved the onslaught of TRAs online and in real life. I feel both humbled and empowered by them and by all of you who have given your time and your energy to fighting this. I’ve done my bit but there is still so much to do. When it seems like everything is against us I just have to remember that we are united and that we have both truth and numbers on our side, every day I see more people waking up to this.

And we will win, we have to.

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Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 21/08/2018 09:03

I couldn't agree more. It was the quality of posts on here that finally peak transed me - special mentions to Datun, whose posts were my call to action and to R0wan who is never far away from that key source.

But really, you are all brilliant. Thank you.

TransplantsArePlants · 21/08/2018 09:08

I've also been able to support Someone in the first stages of recognising an abusive relationship.

I thought I was a feminist before but I had No Idea. I take my hat off to hose of you who have been explaining all this to willfully ignorant people for years

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 21/08/2018 09:10

Same here. Love you all Flowers

rememberatime · 21/08/2018 09:18

It was when my husband refused to allow me to use Mumsnet in his presence that I knew what a powerful force it was. I learned the language to rise up against him and the knowledge to know what to do when I left. Now I am learning how to bring up a teenage girl in a world that seems stacked against her.

I was always a feminist - but nowadays, thanks to this board, I'm a FEMINIST!!

Ariclock · 21/08/2018 09:19
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WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 21/08/2018 09:28

I feel the same. I am crying wussy tears reading this thread. So much of the oppression of women is having our own power hidden from us because we are unable to escape male domination in any space, so men do all the framing, talking and deciding for us.

It is so brilliant that fierce mothers, lesbians and other women, who would fight to the death to protect the young and vulnerable, and protect women and girls, congregate here with our voices unsupressed by male domination.

And the blokes respect that too, watching learning, joining in, but you get the vibe they marvel at the wonder of unsupressed women sharing knowledge, encouragement and creativity, rather than try to take over.

I feel like I want to offer so much more in gratitude than emojis. But that's all I have.
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Thank you every one on FWR Flowers

heresyandwitchcraft · 21/08/2018 10:05

Flowers Smile

R0wantrees · 21/08/2018 10:21

I started reading here at the beginning of the year and this has been life-changing in ways I can't describe here. The wonderful women here will never know how grateful I am. Flowers Flowers Flowers
Linking sources is doing what I can, I think that's what we all do & together it adds up.
Thank you all

LangCleg · 21/08/2018 10:21

It was when my husband refused to allow me to use Mumsnet in his presence that I knew what a powerful force it was. I learned the language to rise up against him and the knowledge to know what to do when I left.

WOW. That is amazing. Flowers

OnlyMakeBelieve · 21/08/2018 10:29

I'm more of a lurker (sorry) but couldn't agree more. I have learnt so much on here and while I may not agree with it all, it has made me feel less alone. Thank you all.

WaddIelikeapenguin · 21/08/2018 12:44

boldly
Interestingly, I was a young woman just as the 90s ‘sex positive’, ‘empowering’ version of feminism was being pushed. I didn’t buy it then either. At heart I’ve also been a radical feminist even though I didn’t have a word for it.
Me too!

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TransplantsArePlants · 21/08/2018 14:49

People's reactions to Mumsnet tells you a lot. I have pretty negative reactions from my MC, educated friends, who have never been on here. It's snobbery about other women, and it is, I believe, a sign they need a bit of Feminism in their life

MsMcWoodle · 21/08/2018 15:29

Huge apologies to all the women who have been fighting this for years.
I'm doing my best now though.

CardsforKittens · 21/08/2018 15:44

I feel the same. Much love to you all. Flowers Cake

TheChampagneGalop · 21/08/2018 16:49

Same! FlowersWineCake

ScrimshawTheSecond · 21/08/2018 17:01
NewNameForTodaysPost · 21/08/2018 21:53

I've been a feminist for 24 years, and a radfem for 17 of those. I’ve never found such a collection in one place of ‘my peoples’, and as a lone radfem in this crazy world I am so rubber ducking GRATEFUL to find some sisters. I’m going to FILIA in October and I’m so overwhelmed by the idea of being somewhere where I’ll be surrounded by other feminists that I’m worried I’ll walk into the conference center and just start crying. Thank you for letting me know I’m not a lone pocket of broken glass. You give me strength. Xx

Ereshkigal · 21/08/2018 22:42

Interestingly, I was a young woman just as the 90s ‘sex positive’, ‘empowering’ version of feminism was being pushed. I didn’t buy it then either. At heart I’ve also been a radical feminist even though I didn’t have a word for it.

Absolutely this is me too,

FloralBunting · 21/08/2018 22:59

Highly emotional day here at Chez Bunting, and I cannot emphasize enough how much the women of MN, and FWR particularly, have been a tremendous source of grounding and sanity in the midst of so much madness. My eldest is an intelligent GC feminist in a way I could only have dreamed of at her age, and my trans identifying daughter seems to be finding some kind of strength to move through this phase because of her admiration for her big sister.

The strength it has given me to know that there are sensible, intelligent, compassionate women who can articulate clearly what is all kinds of wrong about the TRA movement, but more importantly can clearly centre the rights of women and girls and who have welcomed me and my struggles into their covern ( Wink ) is something I don't think I have the words to describe.

You have all, regulars and lurkers alike, made the most enormous difference in my life and the lives of my children.

Ereshkigal · 21/08/2018 23:07

and my trans identifying daughter seems to be finding some kind of strength to move through this phase because of her admiration for her big sister.

So happy to hear this Thanks

ChattyLion · 21/08/2018 23:12

Floral Flowers

Twunk · 21/08/2018 23:21

I might have something in my eye...

I have to say I don’t post much now, but Mumsnet opened my eyes to feminism about 5 years ago. I just had this moment that I just knew I’d changed forever, and for better.

I have also got to know many new and amazing women in real life.

So thank you ALL, whatever your contribution. Even those that come to disagree and challenge - because it’s through watching those discussions I see that the feminist analysis holds water.

Twunk · 21/08/2018 23:22

And Flowers to you Floral

Wrathofjurgenklop · 21/08/2018 23:32

FloralBunting
Flowers for you and your family.

Unfortunately, malevolent forces deliberately set out to drive a wedge between parents and their children.
It's no wonder women are fighting back.

There is so much support from other women (and so much to learn from them) on this site, it makes me proud to be female.

tiredandweary · 21/08/2018 23:36

Yet another name change but yes OP. Thank you.
Another woman back in touch with active feminism and constantly amazed at the insightful, thoughtful and inspiring women on here. Awesome all of you Flowers