Female sterilisation

[caringdenise009]

I wanted,as a straight female, to be sterilised when I was 17. Asked the GP, was laughed out the door.

Asked again inmy 20s. Told unless my then partner agreed, no chance.

Single in my 30s,still sexually active but sure no baby required. Told by GP unless I get a man to counter-sign..... I might change my mind. I didn't know my mind. I really need to provide someone males opinion on my fertility.

Ffw to today, and teenage girls who present as male are given hormone treatment which will make them infertile.

Because they say they are MALE. And if they are male, they won't change their mind? They don't need time to think about it?

Single in my 30s,still sexually active but sure no baby required. Told by GP unless I get a man to counter-sign..... I might change my mind. I didn't know my mind. I really need to provide someone males opinion on my fertility.

How to complain to the NHS

The NHS has a very robust system in place if you wish to complain about your care. Even if you don't want to register a complaint, you should be able to request a different GP. Being required to get a male signature sounds dodgy as hell and, hopefully, is just the result of poor education on the part of the GP and not some horrible underlying prejudice.

My point was really the girls now presenting as male in their teens who are being medicated in such a way that they might be infertile....but it's ok because they say they are male. And they aren't subjected to 20 years of appointments saying but you might change your mind.

Because they say they are male.

OP I am a bit sad to see you say you are 'still' sexually active in your 30s! Glad to hear that. But sad as still implies 'beyond the point when it might be expected to have stopped'. Enjoy it!

AncientLights
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I’m in my 30s with 3 children and have been rejected for sterilisation despite a host of medical reasons forbidding me to have hormonal contraception and my husband being unable medically to have a vasectomy.

Crazy. Complain!

I do not see how a woman with three children would be refused sterilisation, it's bizarre.

The op can presumably use contraception but if you really want to be sterilised, insist on a referral to a gynaecologist. That is your right.

Get what you're saying about hormone treatment for would be trans teens. I worry about that too, would hardly consider it priority treatment on the NHS and wonder how many of them are just going through a phase and will change their minds later. It seems to be fashionable atm to be, or say you are, trans.

I do not see how a woman with three children would be refused sterilisation, it's bizarre.

This is why getting another opinion might be valuable. Looking at NHS policy, having previously had children (as well as being over 30) should improve the chances of having the operation approved:

Female sterilisation

Because what is happening is that non conforming teenagers and young adults are being sterilised in the name of progress to be their "authentic self".

@Fishywishyhead can I ask why they have rejected you for sterilisation?

I'm pregnant with my third child and looking into it after he is born. I didn't think I'd have any issues but obviously I'm wrong on that!

Im in this club im 45 childfree by choice and was asking about this repeatedly between the ages of 21 and 35. i was constantly refused.

I never got told i would have to have a man to countersign though.............bloody hell.

My point is that WOMEN asking to be sterilised at various points are rejected,but doctors are giving girls who claim to be MALE, while those girls are younger than I was are given drugs and surgery which might make them infertile..when they are 12.15,17.
Because they say they are male. So they know their own minds,and they won't regret it. When they offered that as an argument when I asked to be sterilised at 17/25/27/33/24/47?

i hear you denise I got my arse handed to me by pointing out the same thing on another thread on the Relationships board i think it was.

I've never before dipped my toe in to the feminist board here through fear I don't know enough to really engage in conversation so often just read and try and figure it all out. But I'm feeling brave this evening and I'll give it a go!

I understand what you are saying OP, why can a woman not have freedom to choose her reproductive organs are not needed, but a 12 year old girl CA wake up one Tuesday and decide actually I think I'm about and begin a pathway that could lead to infertility.

It's all a bit "ahem" bonkers really...and I also agree with a poster that stated it seems to be "the new thing". I'm in my late 20's and not once can I remember in the 90's or 00's a large percentage of classmates rocking up to school suddenly "the other gender". One did transition out of a school of over 1000 later in adult life, but I think that's fair odds and much smaller compared to today.

I hope that all made sense 😳

I did write in paragraphs but my phone when posting seems to have erased them. Sorry.

Why is sterilisation something the medical community think women can't handle but teenage girls who say they are men can?

I can honestly say,it would have been fine. Some of us know we aren't cut out to be mothers. It is not a failing.

Completely agree, it's a level of insanity that beggars belief.
Children are being put on the pathway to permanent infertility and sexual dysfunction before they can possibly be capable of making these decisions.
It's dressed up as just delaying puberty that the child finds distressing but it puts them on the treadmill that is almost impossible to get off. They never go through sexual maturity so don't have the opportunity to develop normally.

Yet grown women who have had children are not considered capable of making decisions about their own fertility.

Interestingly, i read a report recently that said the reason children are more likely to be involved in accidents as pedestrians is that the part of the brain that is able to make judgment about speed and distance doesn’t properly develop until puberty.

Id be VERY interested to see if anyone dare follow this up and see if children on puberty blockers are adversely affected as they grow older. We could end up with a lot of people unable to drive or cycle safely.

There is no requirement to have your partner's consent , even if you have a partner.

Bizarrely the most informative article I found was in The Sun.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/living/3993872/female-sterilisation-work-nhs-cost-reversible/amp/

You would be able to get it done privately without a GP referral. It would be expensive £2- £3,500 but on the other hand that sort of cost for many people is within the stick it on a credit card , get it done and worry later range.

There have been loads of threads about female sterilisation with quillions of women of all sorts of ages and family situations having been denied.

I think some trusts have stopped doing it altogether (cost).

AncientLight I really don’t think she meant that it was unexpected to be sexually active in your 30s! I think she meant she was single but still sexually active.

I think all sane people are asking 'where are the ethics in putting young children on puberty blockers?'. It just doesn't make sense. These drugs are being used off label-no one knows long term potential problems-no studies have been done (because they would be unethical.) I wonder if Drs prescribing cross sex hormones. puberty blockers etc have taken out insurance against future claims, or if the parents of trans kids have to sign away their rights to sue in the future? Is barking mad that as child you can't get a tattoo, but hey you can take drugs that will render you infertile.....