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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I've just been tagged in a pro-transactivist message on my Facebook page

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Namechangingoncemore · 16/08/2018 01:16

An 'LtotheT' one to be precise - ie as a lesbian standing with transactivists against the lesbians who protested at Pride - which is precisely the opposite of my views. I totally admire the brave women who protested at Pride and agree with what they say.

I don't actually post on Facebook very much but accept friend requests from pretty much anyone I vaguely know (work colleagues, family, acquaintances, some drunk woman I met in a pub once etc) and the poster is a woman that I met a few times at a lesbian/bi/queer group a few years ago and have had on my Facebook ever since.

I think it is some standard meme knocked up to discredit the lesbian protesters at Pride (ie not something that she has produced herself) and then she has tagged herself and 50+ other 'friends' in the post (which I presume are all women she knows are lesbians, bi or 'queer'). Therefore, this is posted on my Facebook page and visible to all my friends as something I agree with.

I don't even know if I can un-tag myself from the post but, if I do, presumably that will be noticeable to this individual and possibly the others tagged in the post???

I'm not really sure what to do - The default is that I actively publicise to all my Facebook friends (including a lot of straight friends who aren't seeing these problems first hand) that everything is a-ok in the LGBT community and we lesbians all support what is going on. But if I break ranks, am I making a public statement of opposition which could see me attacked or my job threatened?

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 16/08/2018 01:20

Delete it off your timeline and unfriend her. Then go into your privacy settings and choose the option which says review all tagged items before they post on your timeline.

Perhaps review your random approach to friend requests?

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 16/08/2018 01:22

I should add - the reality is that people get so much stuff on Facebook, chances are no-one will notice the deletion or the the friending, including the unfriended.

catkind · 16/08/2018 01:23

No, she won't notice if you untag yourself. Most people have the review all tagged posts thing ticked anyway. (And then just don't get around to doing so)

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/08/2018 01:28

I remove most tags. It's rude to tag people without asking as far as I'm concerned.

Namechangingoncemore · 16/08/2018 01:54

I guess I'll take my chances in un-tagging myself. As I said she's not someone I know well and she tagged a lot of us so hopefully she won't notice one random person less.

I've looked at the review all tags option but it says "this only controls what's allowed on your timeline. Posts you're tagged in still appear in search, News Feed and other places on Facebook" - and I'm guessing most people only view posts via the newsfeed, not by going directly to my page.

It seems like a deliberate attempt to bully us all into supporting or appearing to support this agenda - both those of us who are against it and those who don't really know much about it (e.g. a lesbian couple I know who have settled down with kids and haven't been on the scene for a good 5 years are tagged in it). We are automatically publicised as being in the 'pro' camp unless we take action to the contrary.

Although I have friends who use Facebook to post their political views (including one who is very annoying extremely committed to the Corbynite cause) I've never seen anyone do a mass tag before, publicly stating our support - without consultation - to their views.

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IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 16/08/2018 08:08

I'd use it as a way of saying 'huh?' so I could ask questions about what it was all about.

Potplant2 · 16/08/2018 08:20

I don’t see the need for any drama. Just untag and delete and if you want to, either unfriend or unfollow her so you don’t get any more. And check your privacy settings say nobody can post on your timeline without you approving it. Job done.

In my time I’ve been tagged in all sorts of things, up to and including racist Britain First stuff, and the above is how I’ve dealt with it. She probably won’t even notice and if she dies it isn’t worth more than a shrug as you’re such casual acquaintances. These things happen on Facebook.

Potplant2 · 16/08/2018 08:21

Oops! That’s even if she DOES, not even if she dies! I’m not that callous!

UpstartCrow · 16/08/2018 08:23

If you feel brave, post a link what happened on the Vancouver Dyke March, in Canada where they have self ID;

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/08/13/lesbians-excluded-vancouver-dyke-march-name-inclusivity/

Writersblock2 · 16/08/2018 08:28

I’d question it. Be brave. You never know who may be listening and whose mind you will change.

Wanderabout · 16/08/2018 08:57

I would add a link to an article by someone from the LGBT community and say something like 'I support trans people's right to live free of discrimination, I also support lesbians' right to do the same. This is a complicated issue and it's always important to understand both sides.

This article by Jo Bartosch is good as it also talks about how not all trans peoples voices are now represented by Stonewall etc:
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/the-limits-of-stonewalls-tolerance/amp/

Wanderabout · 16/08/2018 09:12

This is another really good article that gives a different perspective to the post you were tagged in:

mobile.twitter.com/JonnnyBest/status/1029814459051790337

Please do say something and/or post something about the conflicting rights issue. If you don't tell them how will they ever know?

This matters.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 16/08/2018 09:40

I would reply with something like "are these the lesbian protesters from #GetTheLOut? I think they make a fair point even if you don't agree with it - people seem to do too much silencing and not enough listening these days and it's getting us no where" and link in their post on Let A Woman Speak.

It's a great opportunity to open up stubborn minds a bit.

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