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What makes men hate women so much that they could do this <trigger warning, post about sexual slavery>

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Absofrigginlootly · 09/08/2018 21:06

I read this yesterday and haven’t been able to get it out of my head since.

What sort of man could abuse women like this? Leave them bleeding and covered in bruises and not care? She says she had up to 20 men a day for 9 months.... that’s 5,400 men (give or take)

I just can’t get my head around it.

Nor the way she was treated by the police. Or the pathetic sentence that her captures received!!!!

I read on a thread on MN a year or so ago talking about how the patriarchy tries to suppress the true extent of male violence. That news stories always talk about “perpetrators” rather than naming the problem “male violence”.

So every news story I’ve seen since that day I’ve mentally named it to myself as male violence and goodness me it’s everywhere. And you can see how news organisations, the police, the government, the patriarchy do not name the problem intentionally. How most laws are written by men for the benefit of men.

It’s like the wool has fallen from my eyes and once you see it you can’t un-see it.

How do we raise the next generation of boys and men to be different????

'I was kidnapped in London and trafficked for sex' www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-45103617

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Absofrigginlootly · 11/08/2018 09:11

poor unsuspecting men who simply forgot to check

Sarcasm, no?

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WrongOnTheInternet · 11/08/2018 09:13

Two thoughts occur. One is that we now live in a country where the rule is that might is right. Obviously women are immediately at a disadvantage.

More fundamentally, though, I think patriarchy exists because men need women - and want women - rather more than we need and want them. We are the breadmakers and the home makers. We're also the gateway to sex, which for them is a pure pleasure whereas for us it always carries consequences. It's a basic conflict of interest. The honourable way of dealing with this is for men to become partners, equal helpers, take responsibility for their children, etc. The other way is for them to keep control by force. Force is much easier, the first requires them to work. Combined with the cultural shift to might is right, and you have the rise in sexual violence.
I can't see things getting better in Britain at the moment and would urge all women to start looking to their own safety and that of their friends.

CardsforKittens · 11/08/2018 10:12

Sarcasm, no?

Oh fuck yes. Sorry that wasn't clear.

Ereshkigal · 11/08/2018 10:15

The reply I got said that the law was already pretty tight: having sex with a woman who had been trafficked was a "strict liability" offence (i.e. mens rea didn't come into it; the material fact that a man had had sex with a trafficked woman was enough to establish guilt, regardless of whether he knew she was trafficked). What I want to know is why this law isn't being applied? Why aren't we seeing custodial sentences for punters?

Yes exactly. I think the maximum penalty for this strict liability offence is quite low though, it's not treated as rape. And these cases are not being pursued by police etc. I read a good article about this a while back, I'll see if I can find it.

Absofrigginlootly · 11/08/2018 11:09

@CardsforKittens I thought you were but sometimes I struggle to understand the tone of written words so just checking.... I’ve heard that argument from the menz before about how you can innocently and inadvertently happen to find yourself raping someone because the whole explicit consent thing is just so darn tricky isn’t it?! Hmm

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