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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

12 girls schools burned down overnight in Pakistan

47 replies

IStillMissBlockbuster · 03/08/2018 16:58

link here

WTF is so wrong with little girls getting an education? These men are pathetic, inadequate shits.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 04/08/2018 09:01

It's not just in places like Pakistan though. One of the big Japanese Medical Schools has just admitted fixing students results so that no more than 30% of those going on to train as doctors are women. I know it's not in the same league as burning schools down but it's part of the same patriarchy which says women shouldn't be educated
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tokyo-medical-exam-results-female-doctors-grades-changed-medicine-a8475966.html

IStillMissBlockbuster · 04/08/2018 09:36

Pye Because knowledge is power and if women become powerful, they won't be their slaves anymore and they feel threatened.

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IStillMissBlockbuster · 04/08/2018 09:37

I know I answered my own question there but men are SO FUCKING FRAGILE! It's disgusting.

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PyeWackets · 04/08/2018 09:59

Every generation of males conspires to keep women under the thumb. They use the structure set up by previous generations and they come up with new interesting ways to control women. Bloody sick of it.

SlothSlothSloth · 04/08/2018 10:12

These poor girls. There is a good chance some of the schools will never be rebuilt and they’ll never get to finish their education. Some of the men who they go on to marry may be the same men who burned down the schools. It’s horrific.

Are there feminist organisations based in Pakistan and run by Pakistani women that anyone can recommend to donate to? I massively distrust international charities, for obvious reasons.

MorbidMuch · 04/08/2018 10:52

Horrendous!

I already support CAFOD, but will up my contributions from now on.

OlennasWimple · 04/08/2018 19:46

Fuck them

This is why I'm a feminist, and this is why the trans debate annoys me so much. Because across the world in 2018, women and girls are treated as lesser beings simply because of their sex. It's not something that they can "identify" out of. It's not something "assigned". It's purely and simply because they are females in a misogynist, patriarchal society

Fuck them

madamginger · 04/08/2018 19:52

karmanirvana.org.uk
This is a uk based charity fighting against forced marriage.

FormerlyPickingOakum · 04/08/2018 20:04

This is what I don't get about these idiots. If you are a patriarchal nitwit, surely burning down a midwifery school means that women die in childbirth causing a greater risk of stillbirth for infant males as well as females. It seems a spectacular own goal to me.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 20:08

Yes because in Taliban Afghanistan only women could do the job but it was made difficult and dangerous for women to work.

Missymoo100 · 04/08/2018 23:04

In the uk there is a massive problem of forced marriage and honour based abuse, it’s happening under our noses. The number of girls going missing from school and taken abroad is outrageous, and the authorities have done little to combat it.
These types of crime occur commonly in “honour/shame” cultures, and there have been some horrific examples of HBA in here in the uk, ie the case of Banaz Mahmood.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/two-hour-rape-and-torture-of-honour-killing-girl-murdered-by-her-family-7296270.html%3famp

Missymoo100 · 04/08/2018 23:15

worse yet there will be some murder victims out of all those girls that have gone “missing” from the uk education system- it’s not even known how many victims there are. The scale of the problem cannot be underestimated.

TheCountryGirl · 04/08/2018 23:19

Hell is full of men.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 04/08/2018 23:23

Horrific and stupid. Countries which educate their girls are more successful generally and economically productive because children do better academically when mothers are educated

So so sad - and pointless.

Missymoo100 · 04/08/2018 23:25

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mystery-of-bradfords-missing-children-were-they-forced-into-marriages-abroad-777684.html%3famp

To put some perspective on it, this article states 250 school girls 13-16 went “missing” from Bradford alone in 2006. That’s just one city!! The article stated a “small but tragic few” will have been forced into marriage- I doubt this, it’ll be much more than a few!

Missymoo100 · 04/08/2018 23:30

So even a substantial number of girls in the uk are missing out on an education, simply because they are being sent off abroad to be married. After marriage, it is not uncommon for rape and abuse to occur.

LockedOutOfMN · 04/08/2018 23:38

Good grief!

Why haven't I read about this in the news?

On a loosely related note (women, education), I read an interview with Nadiya Hussein in The Guardian, where she says,
"My parents wouldn’t let me go to university. I had a place, but three weeks before term began my mum just said no, fearing I’d go off the rails. I was angry and bitter and stayed away from home. I used to resent them – but I couldn’t have understood back then what they had been through, their struggles. Still, I wish I’d just gone anyway."

XingMing · 06/08/2018 20:35

We travelled for a year after recovering from a period of ill health, around the world and spent a month in Sri Lanka during the end of its civil war. We ended up friendly with a taxi driver, to a point where he explained the economics of his working life, which was essentially slave rates, though locally normal. So we helped a bit with quite modest sums, which we gave them each year at Christmas. From which they have funded their daughters' education to the point their eldest child has a scholarship to secondary and they can afford primary fees for the younger daughter. It stops being taken for granted that children do their best when school is a NOT free entitlement . For maybe £2000, their daughters will be professionals, sought after brides, with A FUTURE.

XingMing · 06/08/2018 20:39

And I am not apologising for saying sought after brides. They will bring intellect and understanding to their communities, which will help to raise everyone's expectations.

Italiangreyhound · 06/08/2018 21:06

FUCKING COWARDS.

ChattyLion · 06/08/2018 22:03

This is terrible, thank you for highlighting it, I didn’t know things were this bad in the region.

Human rights watch has more details and context:
www.hrw.org/news/2018/08/03/pakistan-surge-militant-attacks-schools

YouTube has footage of protests opposing this (from South Asia Newsline)

This should be covered more widely in the UK mainstream media. It’s so shocking.

BiologyIsReal · 06/08/2018 22:03

The following is trivial in comparison but figure fixing to disadvantage females was quite accepted in education in the UK in the 1950s.

I took the 11+ in the mid 1950s. Girls had to get a higher percentage to pass for grammar school than boys. This was because the authorities wanted a roughly 50/50 mix of girls and boys in grammar schools. Which may have looked equitable you might say.

But the reason girls had to obtain a higher mark was that if the pass mark was the same for both sexes (note what I said there - sexes not gender) - then the proportion of girls accepted would have been nearer 60%. So equitable but unfair on girls.

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