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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women and unpaid domestic labour

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 02/08/2018 21:40

Just in case another recipe thread is needed. Brand new figures, hot out of the oven.

"Is it any wonder that HILDA’s latest survey shows men continue to value traditional gender roles at a higher rate than women, regardless of whether or not they are single or partnered and if there are children? Traditional gender roles significantly favour men, providing them with exactly the kind of free domestic labour they need to properly enjoy the greater level of paid employment and advancement opportunities such things shore up for them."

www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/men-these-figures-should-embarrass-you-20180802-p4zv4n.html

melbourneinstitute.unimelb.edu.au/hilda/publications/hilda-statistical-reports

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lostlemon · 02/08/2018 21:58

I think we all know this is true and is only changing very slowly. It would be useful to actually interview women and ask how many actually put their foot down re childcare and chores after child birth. I know this is pushing it back on women and men should just step up but generally they won't because society still expects it to be this way. How may men will say that they aren't coming in to the office/work because their child is sick - this normally falls to the woman and generally because they earn less and this is because of the gender pay gap etc. It feels like it is a viscious circle. On top of this I'm afraid that deep down I think there is a large chunk of society that still disapproves of women working. It must be very difficult for couples where one person earns so much more as the financial pressure is huge.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 02/08/2018 22:10

Love this bit at the end

And the thing is, women can leave relationships now. I’d bet my paltry superannuation account that the cohort of men out there who blame anything from feminism (you're welcome) to the family court for the breakdown of their relationships have never once bothered to ask themselves if their partner left and took the kids because they were just bloody sick of living with an incompetent loser who couldn’t even put his dirty clothes in a hamper let alone wash them himself

In my experience, it's always the men who are the most entitled and feel they should do the least housework / childcare who feel the most like victims if the women they are partnered with demand a bit more respect / slightly more even divide of labour / leave them because they won't step up.

I suspect these statistics also hide another factor - when speaking with my female friends it's pretty clear that some of them do have genuine life partners who share all the work equitably and don't behave like whiny children when expected to clear their own dishes from the table. So, for those with man-children as partners, the division of labour is likely to be skewed much more towards the woman doing all the work in the home (whether or not she works outside the home too). So funny that these type of men tend to make a huge song and dance if they do one single tiny piece of housework too.

Just been speaking to a dear friend about this and I'm very depressed. She deserves a lot better and, as far as I can see, her H doesn't care if she kills herself with overwork as long as he's comfortable. It's depressing. Otherwise intelligent men who can't seem to see what it takes to run a house / raise children properly, and are perfectly happy to treat their wives as servants or (if the wife won't behave like a servant) as the cause of all their unhappiness.

louiseaaa · 03/08/2018 13:32

I wonder if this wifework is somthing that mtf transgenders aspire to?

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