Biology Party

[BirthCanal]

The biology party will be fielding candidate/s at the next election.

To join the biology party please pm me. This is not am advertisement as membership is currently free so hopefully mn won't object.

First meeting will be in Bath on Saturday 11th August 2018. Venue to be announced nearer the date.

I'm interested in a truly pro-women party- but it will be difficult (doesn't mean we shouldn't do it though)

I would join a single issue party, namely one based around female safety. FSP.

Interesting thread.

Where does the party stand on animal rights?

Well we don't believe in identifying as animals.

Also I personally knew bob lambert in his heyday so take such perfect people with a pinch of salt.

Penisbeaker
What about people who chose not to identify as either male or female

You don't identify as male or female, you just are male or female. It's biology.

You're free to identify as genderfluid or androgynous if you want. Sex is not the same as gender.

My last post is nothing to do with the OPs Biology party. Just a general statement about biological facts.

Are you are democratic party? Do you allow free speech?

How do you plan on selecting, funding and training candidates?

Will candidates undergo a psychiatric evaluation for Antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders? Would you consider blocking them from running as candidates?

I’m not by any means spoiling for a fight or trying to be a goady cow, but I honestly don’t understand all this hate and anti trans stuff?

What anti-trans stuff?
In their polite discussion of legal rights for women, gender critical women have had their names and addresses published online, had photos of their children published online, had their employers contacted, faced bomb threats, been threatened on picket lines, been threatened in stair wells by masked young people, been beaten in the street. All of this has happened at the hands of pro-penis, biological women hating, trans activists who under any other name would be branded terrorists.

I appreciate this is fast moving debate but do have a little read about before straight away buying the well marketed campaign who brand any woman who speaks up for anything to do with women’s rights, as anti-trans.

We believe that being a politically inferior group is based upon evidence based research.

What does this mean?

Sorry was asleep.

gasping

This means that we would consider evidence that a group was disadvantaged.

For example, if children of single parents were found to have higher rates of rickets than children of two resident parents then that would mean they were a disadvantaged group. We would seek to rectify this discrepancy by political means

It’s a good discussion

But you are playing on the other side’s pitch by saying you “believe” in sex being observed at birth. Sex just is.....like hunger and thirst. it’s not a belief thing.

Penis

I already said that gender (or lack thereof, or novel types of) is of little import to us.

Intersex is a medical condition not a third sex. Medical specialists would determine the sex to be recorded on the BC.

We would also have an optional gender recognition certificate. Although the birth certificate would be unalterable under any circumstances, a gender certificate would record other features as various classes. Some classes could be self determined eg the person identifies as transwoman, spiritual butterfly or whatever. Other categories would be only for medical authorities to comment on eg srs or a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

Yes an entire cross section of society would rightly be excluded from ladies toilets etc. This is for the privacy and dignity of girls and women. All public facilities would be bound by law to have male and female as well as separate cubicles for disabled and separately again cubicles for inclusive groups.

I don't care if people think our party is like bnp. I think the Faucett Society is a bunch of woman hating idiots but I'm past caring.

Whowasthat

Yes we are democratic (proportional representation) and support free speech but not hate speech.

Well there's only 3 of us so far so it's all hands to the deck. Majority voting.

We can't afford to psychiatrically evaluation candidates it would be based on criminal record checks and personal interview and referees.

Just to be clear penis, we do not consider transwomen to be any more or less violent than other biological males. Therefore they should keep out of female spaces.

Furthermore, it is clear that transwomen are not women because they haven't a clue about how menstruation needs to be dealt with in privacy and safety, without some blokes size 11s poking under the cubicle door. Furthermore, rape victims and other victims of sexual or physical assault need female only spaces when eg changing. Again transwomen don't seem to get this (I know there are exceptions notably transexuals ) which just goes to show that transwomen haven't got women-like minds either.

Are you not getting an overpowering sense of wendy house politics?

What does that mean?

@birthcanal thank you.
I assumed (incorrectly) you were inferring trans = more violent than men.

Anyway the biology party is officially folding due to an unforeseen membership crisis. The extraordinarily general meeting previously advertised is also cancelled as I couldn't find a venue with only 3 chairs. I am considering standing as an independent candidate wearing one of those adult human female thirty I just saw.

BirthCanal, I hope something new will come about but I think it need a an organisation behind it, like WPUK or WNTT or whatever.

But I think your ideas are good

It does need an organisation, a structure behind it. It would be a single-issue party, to start with anyway, and I'm not sure how many single-issue candidates have been successful. I can think of the doctor who stood as an independent to protest about the closure of the local hospital and he clearly had his constituents behind him in that. Have there been any others? I know other aspects of policy have been mentioned upthread but the big push, the main focus would, initially, be to safeguard women's & children's rights vis-a-vis the proposed amendments to the GRA, no? And it is going to be difficult to get heads to pop up above the parapet. As we know.

I agree @AncientLights I don't think it has to have a structure behing it but in reality I think it needs it.

Because BirthCanal just said 'Anyway the biology party is officially folding due to an unforeseen membership crisis'

So presumably it is too difficult for one or two or three people to pull off. But a structural organisation might be better equipped.

Thanks Italian

Yes I agree we were just too small. Wendy house size is about right.

Indeed, the main issues are the medicalisation of healthy children, the removal of child protection safeguards, the erasure of the terms women, lesbian and transexual, and the destruction of female only spaces.

Did I miss anything major?

Where will we be in 10 years time?

The gaslighing making us all say things that are not true.

I dread to think where we'll be in 10 years' time. Sadly, I've increasingly been feeling that when my time comes to drop off my perch I shan't be too bothered about it (apart from leaving the nearest & dearest of course), because the world seems to be going to shite.