The Incredibles 2 - the back to work angst of a former SAHM

[OlennasWimple]

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I'm not sure if The Incredibles 2 has come out in the UK yet, but I saw it this week and loved, loved loved the story line of a former SAHM being coaxed back into the work place, leaving her DH to manage the kids on his own while she's travelling for work. Plus Elastigirl has a huge bum (admittedly, as well as a tiny waist)

Loved that movie. I also loved the 'rad bitches club' moments - between elastigirl and the engineer, the ambassador, that portal girl, and edith. Confident professional women each doing their own stuff and each quietly supporting the other SPOILER ALERT

... until one of them turn out to be kinda evil of course.

That sounds good! Is it appropriate viewing for a 7 yo do you think?

Yeah, the evil bit kinda killed the sisterhood moment... But it was there for a while!

Definitely fine for a 7yo - but like all good cartoons, the real laughs are for adults

I watched it at the cinema with a 2 year old and a 4 year old. 2 year old fell asleep but 4 year old loved it!

I liked the evil. Sisters are doing it for themselves, including the evil geniusing. Someone has to. And she was a proper evil technical genius. Not sexy evil like Catwoman or Poison Ivy are portrayed.

Definitely one I’ll be watching under the guise of ‘for my 4 year old’

mrsTerry
That's what I loved! The baddy was competent, innovative, rationally motivated and someone you could empathise with (until it all got very dark)
It was a marvellous film. I also loved how hard Bob found it to be the supporting player. Male privilege, it's hard to let it go.
Astonishingly brave and innovative for Disney.

Sisters are doing it for themselves, including the evil geniusing

Yes!!!

Plus Violet and Edna as supporting act. The surrounding women are funny and well drawn as well.

Brilliant, lots of positive female roles.

Spoiler alert!!!!!!!!!!

One scary bit, when Helen goes to the Screen Slavers 'base', she opens the door and we know he is in there somewhere. She looks around and about a minute in she finds him and the lights go on very quickly and it is briefly very scary! I knew it was coming because we see the screen slaver briefly when Helen opens the door.
So I dangled my hand in my son's direction (he is 7 but quite a nervous viewer sometimes) and I just said 'this bit will get rather scary'.

Son did hold onto my hand and I think it is good to prepare them for scary bits. Screen Slaver is a scary character! (I am 53, and thought he looked scary!)

FYI, John Ratzenberger is the Underminer (he was the boring postman from 'Cheers').

and Void seems to be a lesbian metaphor...

www.intomore.com/culture/this-new-character-in-incredibles-2-is-a-big-lesbian-metaphor

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I found parts of this quite scary. Too scary for my 3.7yo dd. There’s a scene with a house break in and someone, (two people?), is / are shot and killed. I don’t think my dd necessarily understood that’s what had happened, but she may have done. There are lots of action scenes which I think she found a bit much. We ended up having to leave towards the end as she was scared. Completely my fault for taking her to see it, as it is a PG. I just thought, as she’d seen the first Incredibles with no problems at all and because she loves other PGs like Frozen and Moana, it would be fine. But it’s actually really quite a creepy movie. I feel terrible for taking her now, as I think she was quite scared. I don’t think the ott flashing lights helped either. I found parts of it a bit of a sensory overload myself and I’m 34.

Bloody loved Elastigirl though and Jack Jack too. I just wouldn’t take any very young or nervous children to see it again.

Obviously dd left the cinema only to ask to go straight back in again though, so I assume it wasn’t too bad. I’ll stick to U certificates I think for any future cinema trips with her, and am hoping it doesn’t give her nightmares.

I was hoping to take DC to it until I realised it was a PG. They are only 5 and 3. It'll need to be a DVD in a few years. They both like the original film but they need to sit on me whilst Mr I is fighting the robots!

Yeah, I’d give it a miss stargirl. I’m kicking myself for taking dd now.

The PG thing is important. DD was mostly fine. But children freak out at very different things.

BBFC is great at spelling out exactly what is problematic and you can make your own judgement.

I'd rather a little fright then the casual sexism of 90% of the U stuff.

Yeah, I’ve (now) read the BBFC for it. I don’t know if it sounds as scary on there as I personally found it (imagining it from a young child’s perspective). As you say though, it depends on the child and there were loads of young children there who didn’t seem overly fussed 🤷‍♀️. Must just be us. It’s so weird though as I find the bit in the first Incredibles where Mr I is battling the second robot really brutal and dd has seen that without it seeming to scare her. And the bit which scared her most in this was a bit which I didn’t think was the most scary. It’s tricky. I think we’ll just steer clear of PGs at the cinema. At least with a dvd I can fast forward any scary parts!

I'd rather a little fright then the casual sexism of 90% of the U stuff.

This is true too though! Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid spring to mind.

Good film but my 4 year old dd did find bits scary and cuddled into me. She also said when she was trying to go to sleep that evening that she kept seeing the scary parts of the film when she closed her eyes.

I was put off by the trailer I saw as I thought it was spectacularly sexist and racist.

Obviously there will have been a suite of differently cut trailers, but the one I saw (twice) at the cinema seemed to be implying that Elastigirl had to be the face of superheroes now because you know, quotas, and that instead of the action being focussed on her and her professional life, it was about the husband adjusting to being a stay at home dad (like it's only an interesting adventure when a man is experiencing it).

I was also cross about the angry black woman trope at the end of the trailer (Fro-zone's wife), and the fact she was angry being the punchline so I decided to give this movie a miss.

Did the trailer do it a massive disservice?

@LonginesPrime your take on he trailer is wrong. Helen was supposedly chosen because she caused less damage. Her husband struggled to be a stat at home dad.

Honey barely features.

It was very good.

Did anyone else see Bao the short film at the start?

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Yes I did italian. I really liked it.

I missed that part with Honey.

And I didn’t pick up on anything about quotas being the reason Elastigirl was picked. As italian said, I think they had worked out that she was less destructive and therefore less costly / offputting, in the five years previous to supers going into hiding.

I didn’t especially like the scene where Elastigirl is running round in massive high heeled boots and then gets attacked by a man with a cattle prod though. Didn’t sit well. But I knew about the heels beforehand, so can’t really complain now. And all in all I enjoyed her being the hero and also the villain, creepy as it was

But @LonginesPrime there could have been more ethnic diversity as I think frozone was the only black character we really see.

I was also cross about the angry black woman trope at the end of the trailer (Fro-zone's wife), and the fact she was angry being the punchline so I decided to give this movie a miss.

She wasn't the punchline (she barely featured) but you're right, her relationship with Fro-Zone is portrayed in a racist sexist way. Thanks for pointing that out.