Open letter from female survivors of male violence to women’s organisations

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This has almost certainly already been posted but I couldn't see it on the first couple of pages (Feminism chat is so busy these days!):

fairplayforwomen.com/fovas_letter/

Powerful letter. Thank you for sharing this. How can we guarantee that every MP / charity chief executive etc actually reads this?

Take it to their offices personally? Deliver registered post?

I more meant the charities rather than the MPs there. Ask MP constituents to send and ask for comments in those cases.

fairplay for women, with blatant attempts at propaganda will be dismissed as the scaremongering, propaganda spreading transphobes that they are.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

And don't bother coming at me to abuse me and call me all the names under the sun, they are pathetic.

Youtube and wordpress blogs are the best they can do for their 'sources' of information.

Sex-segregation and the laws around it in the equality act, 100% undermine the useless propaganda they are spreading.

Womens refuges already support and will continue to support trans women in a way that ensures safety for all.

The open letter is like a an episode of infowars, which is hardly surprising as they take their cue's from hands across the aisle, and the evangelical arguments they spread.

And don't bother coming at me to abuse me and call me all the names under the sun, they are pathetic.

There really is no need. Everyone sees you for what you are.

There really is no need. Everyone sees you for what you are.

Indeed. And Pat Craven might be able to help MNHQ see it too, as we do keep trying to tell them.

Cues is a plural noun. As such it has no apostrophe. You seem to be overly apostrophe-inclusive. Grammarphobe

I like the letter. Well done to all who contributed to it.

I agree with pp who said print it out and put it in the mail to charities and MPs along with the clipping about the transgender being charged with sexual assault of four women in the female estate.
Sometimes you have to demand that the people in charge of decision making look reality squarely in the eye and stop pretending things are as they should be instead of how they are.

fairplay for women, with blatant attempts at propaganda will be dismissed as the scaremongering, propaganda spreading transphobes that they are.

Translation: "I don't care about rape survivors. They are only women, after all."

Garam
Can I ask you to read the opening post on this thread and tell me what you think.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3160220-to-write-to-Women-s-Aid-and-ask-you-to-do-the-same-if-you-value-their-services

I will be printing that FPFW letter and sending it to my MP tomorrow morning.

"The whole thing is ridiculous."

Garam, you're a rape apologist.

The fact sheet from sages that's linked to at the start of the letter references some stuff that isn't in the consultation document. I'm not sure it's a great way to go about getting MPs onside. It makes it look like a biased thing right from the getgo iyswim, and that's bad, right?

Like this bit "No exclusion of trans people under any circumstances. A person with a Gender Recognition Certificate should never be excluded from a single-sex occupation or service for people of their acquired gender."

I just read the full consultation document tonight and it says the opposite, that the EA exemptions will definitely still be applicable whether someone has a GRC or not. I now there's still the thing about the exemptions not being useable etc, but there's no plan to remove them according to the doc.

I think the fact sheet is referencing a different thing - the trans equality report? Which I haven't read. What's the connection between that thing and the consultation? R0wantrees, you're the FWR librarian, what do you have on this?

Sometimes I read something and I think "Well this will be a straight forward thread, because even the most hardened TRA wouldn't slag off survivors of male violence speaking for themselves."

I'm always disappointed in humanity when I'm wrong. Fifth post in? Man, that is low.

Garam, you are a rape apologist.

I just love the way biological, material reality and the science that helps us describe it is labelled as abusive.

Infowars is not a bad description, except that it suggests that both sides have equal access to equal information. Trans activists openly deny reality, yet are given the loudest voice.