BBC coverage

[StormyDaniels]

www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/07/12/how-the-bbc-lost-the-plot-on-brexit

Not feminism but an article by Nick Cohen about how the BBC refuse to properly cover a lot of the issues around the referendum. I also think some of this could apply to their coverage of trans issues - they have been very one sided or skimmed any issues. The closing para was good I thought -

In the preface to Animal Farm, George Orwell provided a line that today would be apt for the walls of the BBC headquarters: “Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban.” No doubt, if the shift of public opinion against Brexit continues, the BBC’s silence will end and, like a weather vane, it will swing with the prevailing wind. It will receive no plaudits from me. No one should praise journalists who speak out when, and only when, they are certain that public opinion is with them. Not just journalists, but anyone engaged in political life should learn from the BBC’s abject performance. Whether you are on the left or the right, there will be times when you will be frightened of saying what you believe for fear of offending your friends, breaking a taboo or going against the ephemeral consensus of the day. Allow that fear to dominate you and you will end up like the BBC: platitudinous, frightened, and irrelevant.

I used to be very pro BBC, now I see it has many flaws. As I said, although I feel it could apply to the trans coverage, this isn't really feminism but you might be interested in the article anyway.

Thank you. I think this writer is on to something and that you're right - it does apply to trans issues.

I don't particularly agree with Cohen on Brexit (though he's very good on Labour's woes) but he's right about the BBC. Everything seems to have to follow a narrative now, plus news is conspicuous by its absence on its website.

I tend to go to the Speccie now, but what to use for balance? The Graun is a joke, and, though I'm less familiar with The New Statesman, I 'm a bit wary of any site that has signed up La Penny as a columnist.

Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian: "An absence of ethics is exhibited by calling the absence of ethics "controversies" instead of an absence of ethics."

This is what the majority of journalism consists of today.

plus news is conspicuous by its absence on its website.

This.

"Silence becomes cowardice when occasion demands speaking out the whole truth and acting accordingly."

The BBC is a state broadcast and I think, therefore, is the voice of establishment consensus. Potential failings are obvious - but in times of division and strife (eg Brexit) those failings stick out like a sore thumb.

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TBH honest I think Nick ‘no problem with stating my opinions as objective truth’ Cohen is a massive hypocrite!

The problem as I see it is yes, he has a point re the BBC (etc) but the problem is this stating of opinions as fact, not citing them as opinion, not referencing to third parties... which is what he does all the time and his fans have told me in the past that ‘this is how you are taught to debate in uni. It’s a way of stating your case strongly’...

Well, I think it is a massive problem TBH...

If he had tried to argue the bbc should be held to higher standards then that would at least be coherent but he hasn’t, he’s written an article about how the BBC should write like he does!

He’s basically saying the BBC has taken the wrong side due to being concerned about popularism, he’s not arguing for what I think of as good journalism, he’s arguing that they should have bias and that bias should be principled which is a different thing altogether!

The BBC should take their share of responsibility for sharing factually incorrect information, the Independent is now blaming a suicide on the reporting of the pride incident.

The independent is ignoring advice from the Samaritans.

I am very limited in many ways, I can't do what is needed myself. I don't write or offer myself as an expert to the press.

I can see that the press isn't presenting news in a way that shows both sides in an unbiased way. Where is the calm logic and reasoning overview of each side? So many people are getting under the skin of people, winding them up emotionally for a response. I once valued other people and thought they were far more intelligent than I, in general, where are the millennial versions of David Attenborough? Now all I see is thesaurus wind up merchants writing or offering expertise on TV.

Journalism has been dumbed down due to move from print to online, the business model being broken- coupled with the 24 hour news cycle and govt funding cuts. So more inexperienced lower paid content providers.

So the experienced editorial gate keeping doesn't exist any more or if it does, it is mainly in the hands of the uni educated millennials who seem devoid of critical thinking and/ or have drunk the kool-aid.

So we have lack of experience plus biased gate keeping on the editorial frontline - hence the prevalent of bias fake news stories that are poorly researched and certainly not factual

It's a shame no one thinks to check the content with GC feminists

• the only fact checking seems to be with their own faux feminist contacts

Yy woman.

Anothe issue with the BBC is its refusal to allow men equal programme coverage as women.
Women have their own program on radio 4 called women's hour run by feminist, men do not have the equivalent .
George Orwell had a word for this as well, any body know it?.

2+2=France

Ha ha hello Vicky! You are my favourite feminism chat troll! Yes, women have ‘woman’s hour’ which offers a ‘female perspective’ (not a feminist perspective) and men have? Well let’s see? Pretty much everything else...

Yes, the BBC News website really isn’t news these days.

yeah, 'Men's 23 hours' it's called

Also, they tried Man's Hour, remember?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFcHrcQ-Us