Difference Between Sex and Gender?

[OhFFSDH]

This has probably been done to death but I'm trying to explain this to DH and hitting a brick wall. He thinks they are the same. Can anyone provide me with a good source or journal papers where this discusses this in detail?

I have given him a dictionary and he has just looked at different variations in meaning for gender to prove his point when I have studied psychology and sociology and have been taught differently. My books are in storage so I can't even show him what I mean.

Everything that DonkeySkin said

Sex = people who gestate babies
People who fertilise babies

Gender;

The social roles and expectations enforced due to sex class

Your DH is right in that they’re inseparable and we don’t have ‘72 genders’ or whatever people bleat on about.

Because you can’t have a gender without a second class and there is only two sex classes.

How people see themselves is totally irrelevant ehen it comes to gender as it is socially enforced. This is why feminists have tried to eradicate gender, because they understand that being a woman doesn’t mean that all women think and feel the same.

Modern trans politics takes us back at least 75 years

All feminists should stop using the weasel word 'gender', and instead refer only to sex and sex roles or sex stereotypes. And we must force others to clarify whether they mean 'sex' or 'sex roles' every time they use 'gender'. And watch how much clearer the debate becomes.

I agree Donkey.

I don't think he's being either thick or deliberately obstructive. It's only since joining MN that I've come to understand what gender is - before that I didn't engage my brain with it, as it seemed complicated, and often appeared beside words like 'theory' and 'politics' and 'radical feminism', or was used instead of the word 'sex'. All too difficult if you're not that interested, and are quite happy with your position on the gender spectrum 😂

Gender and sex have very clear, very different meanings.

Of course feminists need to discuss Gender.

To be honest, if he still doesn't get it, I would ask him whether he is comfortable being as thick as he obviously is. It must cause problems in other areas of life, surely

Great come back to being goaded.

I agree with Donkeyskin- I am stopping using gender altogether.

Also OP I recommend the thread about Male Abusive Behaviour that Lisa M started. It's worth a read as the use of the word gender does confuse as you will see in the thread.

The problem with the meaning of the word gender is it's been debased to mean girls = pink and boys = blue and then further debased to mean lipstick 💄 and frocks on surgically altered bodies ( Kardastians and those who believe they can change sex).

What it's actually all about are the power structures in place between the 2 sex classes that results in women being treated as second class citizens despite being the majority. It's all about the abuse of power by one sex (male) to another (female) to keep them enslaved as an underrepresented majority in that power structure. To keep women in their place with no real power in practice to change anything. Thus women do most of the work yet get no seat at the patriarchy table that keeps women in their place, begging for the crumbs and bones that the bloated men have left over after they have gorged their voracious sexual, financial and control appetites.