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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Global Butterflies

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Callmejudith · 13/07/2018 11:44

Does anyone know much about this group? They are coming into our company to deliver a session called Trans 101.

I want to attend to hear what they say but also think I may burst a blood vessel while seething silently.

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BeMoreMagdalen · 26/09/2019 17:34

Mre as a title which stands for 'Mystery'?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The level of pretention you would have to have to call yourself 'Mystery' as a title...

TalkingintheDark · 26/09/2019 17:46

Look at their fucking client list.

So much capture.

Funny how the sex that has the structural power in society has found it so easy to push though its agenda even though so “marginalised” and “vulnerable”. Funny how it’s so much harder for the sex that doesn’t have the structural power to challenge this.

I wonder if there could be a correlation? 🤔

Melroses · 26/09/2019 18:06

Opened my heart and mind about why it is important to be kind, empathetic and respectful to people we may perceive as 'different'

Didn't you learn this before?

It sounds like Church to me. And School Assembly.

FemaleAndLearning · 26/09/2019 22:02

Radical stitch that is hilarious. I might start putting my pronouns on my email signature they are: I, me, and mine!

FemaleAndLearning · 26/09/2019 22:22

BeMoreMagdelen
Exactly who would seriously have their title as mystery, Mx is bad enough.

Fraggling · 26/09/2019 23:30

'Global Butterflies advises law firms on use of titles by receptionists and other staff, recommending an end to gendered forms of address such as ‘sir’ and ‘madam’.'

Is this common in law firms?

I work in financial sector and this just doesn't happen.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 27/09/2019 08:57

Sir and Ma’am-ing constantly is an Americanism

I had a call with an American supplier yesterday who Ma’am-ed me throughout, then ended the call with a’Sir’. I’d had to get a bit politely assertive and I guess it was a Freudian slip

And do you know what? I still exist. And I didn’t threaten to punch him or anything

Patnotpending · 27/09/2019 14:23

@cacoethes1008, I too am a word-lover.

For anyone without a dictionary to hand, cacoethes means:

an uncontrollable urge or desire, esp for something harmful; mania

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 27/09/2019 14:36

Well maybe that's why cacoethes needed the training in how to be respectful and kind and all that? 'Cos of the serial killing 'n' stuff?

Fraggling · 27/09/2019 15:35

But this is a British company delivering training in the uk?

So when they say try to avoid sir/ma'am wtf use is it to anybody?

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 27/09/2019 15:56

So when they say try to avoid sir/ma'am wtf use is it to anybody?

Little to none I’d have thought

Fraggling · 27/09/2019 16:12

Fucking ridiculous

So us Brits can learn to be more inclusive of trans 'folx' by changing a behaviour we rarely engage in, in the first place.

Awesome ta, you lazy, US centric pillocks.

Moonswimmer · 30/04/2021 15:16

Same group coming to mine next month. Anyone had any recent experience?

StillFemale · 30/04/2021 15:23

No experience but based on their website they appear to have a cavalier approach to European and UK GDPR laws Hmm

PaleBlueMoonlight · 30/04/2021 15:28

They and a group called the InterLaw Diversity f
Forum were involved in creating the 2019 guide for drafting gender neutral legislation. This is a good document in principle (though it was, I think, behind the removal of the word “mother” in the ministers maternity leave bill), but I find it strange that is was a trans organisation behind it, rather than a women’s organisation.

7a21077a.flowpaper.com/GuidetoGenderNeutralDrafting/#page=1

Redapplewreath · 30/04/2021 15:38

Thinking I'd be asking when FPFW will be popping in to do their training. You know, for balance, and proof of impartiality. and wondering if this will all be hurled into reverse in a panicky lemming type way when Maya et al's court cases start demonstrating the massive issues with buying in highly politically biased groups trying to wish away inconvenient British law

NotTerfNorCis · 30/04/2021 17:16

I've been to a Global Butterflies session. It wasn't mandatory, but I wanted to go out of curiosity. What I mainly remember are two things. First was that they were encouraging graduates to look for signs of genderism, such as gender neutral toilets, in a potential workplace. Second was the comment that the two presenters, both transwomen, had experienced being ridiculed - even when they go to companies to give talks. It crossed my mind that this was at the heart of all the genderbread and 150 genders ideology (both of which were mentioned). Pushing back against ridicule.

Our company is introducing gender neutral toilets, but they are a problem for some of our staff and we have covertly made sure that there are still sex-segregated ones.

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