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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Radical feminism - the coolest game in town. Always has been.

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Jeanhatchet · 12/07/2018 07:50

You know it. Stop messing about now with all the man inclusivity daftness. We haven't got much time.

Men have never given feminist women a damn thing. They just like the t shirts.

We have taken every right we have by campaigning and shouting and marching and lobbying and writing and petitioning and tweeting and posting and setting up services on just £1.65 and a can of pop in Susan's kitchen on a rainy Thursday. But with incredible strength and determination round those women's tables.

Some women have been fighting to halt the trans assault on women's rights for a very very long time. Years. I wanted to acknowledge those brave and bold women who began to openly tweet about this way way back years ago. When folk either ignored them or threatened them. This stuff isn't new.

However - to Mumsnet. You are important and you have raised awareness. You've stuck your necks out. You've begun to realise in bigger numbers that this stuff threatens the very foundations of why you're here. I thank you for that. And I've only been here 5 minutes. I still can't quote posts or work out what the hell is the point of AIBU.

But you've been so supportive. Thanks again.

Right. We haven't got much time. Women are fierce and we are determined but when faced with the massively funded and corporately organised resources of the trans dominated Stonewall and Pink News et al ..... in comparison we are still sat round Susan's kitchen with a can of pop and £1.65.

Do what you can as loudly as you can. Tell your friends. Tell your office. Tell the women at the school gates. At your yoga class. Tell the butcher and the post woman. Share stuff. Keep challenging the narrative. Keep defending our rights to spaces free of men. Back your lesbian sisters when they refuse to be erased. Donate cash to fund raisers. Sign petitions. Tell the men to step back because we are a bit busy to worry about their needs just now.

Be brave. Be certain. Women will help you and they will fight for you to still call
yourselves women and have space that belongs just to you.

Come in to Susan's kitchen. No men allowed.

Wink
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ErrolTheDragon · 12/07/2018 16:54

Crones get the pick of the best chairs don't they?

whitehandledkitchenknife · 12/07/2018 17:03

I have elderflower gin. And tales of the 1970s and 1980s to impart.

Crones get the pick of the best chairs don't they?

And the right to repeat often tales of much derring do Grin

OlennasWimple · 12/07/2018 17:09

Susan has a nice kitchen, always smells of freshly baked bread and rebellion Smile

Datun · 12/07/2018 17:23

I was thinking about this yesterday.

How unique it is that so very many women can all communicate at the same time. Sharing experiences, stories, anecdotes, ideas, advice and support.

We recognise that social media has allowed people to find their 'tribe'. And sometimes that has been dangerous. A feeling of legitimising people who are, quite rightly, outliers in society.

But when it's women, it feels as though something unique and quite powerful is happening.

There are so many common points in the experiences of women that communicating them is quite genuinely empowering. A word, I know, that is often frowned upon, but this instance it feels appropriate.

Nothing like Mumsnet has ever been seen before.

The number of women who have said they hadn't considered themselves feminists, until they started reading on mumsnet is extraordinary.

And we are over half the population. All communicating. All supporting.

Thanks for this OP Jeanhatchet.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 12/07/2018 17:28

And we need a bigger vision than just the GRA - we need to evolve our systems of governance so they work for the majority - for us - so that they embody the wisdom we have and implement what's needed to create a level playing field of the sexes.

HermioneWeasley · 12/07/2018 17:31

@JeanHatchet, I love your campaigning.

UnderHerEye · 12/07/2018 17:57

But when it's women, it feels as though something unique and quite powerful is happening

I think this sums up the problem beautifully, because when women talk and connect something unique and powerful does happen - we are connected because we are women, it is in our very biology, and that is why sex matters.

It took me a long time to realise why we need a feminist movement in GB in 2018, and I’m very grateful to all you women who have kept talking and kept explaining- you are doing amazing work!

enoughisenough12 · 12/07/2018 18:01

Brilliant post from an outstanding woman.

Off to donate to the crowdfunder.

Jeanhatchet · 12/07/2018 20:00

Ah .... you women are amazing. x

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Agerbilatemycardigan · 12/07/2018 20:13

I thought pansexual was something to do with flutes.

I blame it on too much mythology as a child.

FemWomb · 12/07/2018 20:26

I first thought pansexual was something to do with Peter pan.

Bowlofbabelfish · 12/07/2018 20:33

Maybe there’s a critical debate in pansexual circles over copper bottoms vs induction ...

I love the smell of freshly baked rebellion in the morning...

SophoclesTheFox · 12/07/2018 20:55

Thank you Jean, both for your work and for the reminder that I hadn't bunged FPFW a bit of cash in a while. Now rectified.

I also have gin and tales of the 80s and 90s Grin

thebewilderness · 12/07/2018 21:01

I love hearing women's stories.

It appears that Stonewall leadership and the mayor of London have come out as homophobic misogynist who persecute Lesbians. So there is that.

NoSquirrels · 12/07/2018 21:11

@PsychoLibrarian GrinGrinGrin
Aaargh! Bloody autocucumber. I do not bring 'him', I bring GIN.

I love this on so many levels, not least that your gin has autocucumber Grin

I feel like changing my name to Susan’s Kitchen. Perfect call to arms, JeanHatchet.

PsychoLibrarian · 12/07/2018 21:30

@NoSquirrels, the gin has auto-cucumber/lime/elderfowers (to taste) with an optional splash of tonic water. And while I am here - gin with M&S Rhubarb and Ginger Cordial and a splash of sparkling water is life-changingly quaffable.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 12/07/2018 22:12

I love the smell of freshly baked rebellion in the morning...

Grin
boldlygoingsomewhere · 13/07/2018 08:19

On an bit of a tangent but I recently bought some dungarees from Lucy and Yak. They also have cute little badges to pin to the dungarees - one of them is ‘radical feminist’. Smile

Tanith · 13/07/2018 08:52

Crowdfunder link is here:

www.crowdfunder.co.uk/the-campaign-to-save-sex-based-rights

Stilettosandan0venglove · 13/07/2018 12:09

2 days left for the crowd funder and the total is zooming up!

KimCheesePickle · 13/07/2018 13:29

I thought pansexual was having a fancy about the great cloven-hoofed wild god of nature Grin

BertrandRussell · 13/07/2018 18:08

Isn't pansexual something to do with Belinda Blinked?

ChattyLion · 13/07/2018 19:29

Full support Jean Flowers

Writersblock2 · 13/07/2018 19:43

Here here! There are so many of us now and we aren’t going to shut up and go away. We will do what we need to do. Women always have.

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2018 20:04

We are here, Jean. We ain't going anywhere.
The sisterhood is alive and growing.

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