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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If women saying they have a right to define their boundaries and relationships is transphobic, then instead of denying this we need to make it clear to all

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xxmarksthespot · 11/07/2018 17:03

There's far too much defensiveness about being called transphobic, especialy when trans activists and their supporters in the press have made it perfectly clear what transphobia is:

stating that female homosexuality exists
stating that female biology exists
stating that women have absolute rights to say no to having male bodies forced upon them

This is how the trans activists define transphobia. Maybe we need to make this clear to as many people as possible.

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MsMcWoodle · 11/07/2018 17:05

Agreed.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 11/07/2018 17:30

👏 👏 👏

Great idea.

Succinct and 2 the point - would be a great addition to Fair Play for Women thread for a sticker if not already there

terryleather · 11/07/2018 17:44

This. All the way.

NoNotheresnolyrics · 11/07/2018 17:46

Perfectly put! This distopian nightmare has gone too far now

Pratchet · 11/07/2018 17:50

Yes, that's being made very clear on a thread right now. Any boundary is deemed transphobic. It's on the 'third space' thread. So even if trans people have gender neutral facilities where they can feel safe and validated, the very fact that xx only spaces still exist is considered 'transphobic'. (Transphobic bullshit, according to one man)

nauticant · 11/07/2018 17:53

In a similar vein, this thread is well worth reading:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3300454-To-feel-sad-that-I-cant-support-LGBT-anymore

In defending their ideology some posters found themselves arguing that a different level of consent applies to lesbians. Everyone gets "consent" except for lesbians who get "consent ... but".

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 11/07/2018 18:26

God, Nauticant, that was disgusting wasn't it? Still, a very clear and disturbing lesson for any onlookers. Reading how lesbian consent was up for debate - and for grabs. Fuck that shit. Angry

WeAreGerbil · 11/07/2018 18:48

I was just wondering whether to very innocently ask if I was a TERF on someone's FB page where lots of men are wanging on about how women are doing feminism wrong in relation to the protest on Saturday. (Good job we have them to help us 🙄)

I would like to post does that make me a TERF as I've campaigned for years for safe space for women and girls away from male bodies? I'm too scared though I think, I have health issues and am supposed to be reducing stress not creating it, which makes me really cross as I feel my experience of abuse and assault by men is silenced.

stillathing · 11/07/2018 20:28

I absolutely agree with this. I also will be taking the approach, with my mp, that if the government is moving towards supporting single gender provision where previously there was single sex, then fine (I mean it's obviously not fine with me) but they need to make this clear and explicit to all potential service users.

thebewilderness · 11/07/2018 20:47

Thanks, xx. I tweeted your quote.

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