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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian sex article in Guardian

13 replies

Mooncupdotcom · 09/07/2018 19:06

Anyone else read this? guardian link here

Incredible to have an article about how people born with female genitalia find it easier to have pleasurable sex with other people born with female genitalia, then interviews ‘Alice, a trans lesbian’, who evidently doesn’t. First post here, long time lurker. Not a lesbian, just baffled by this...?

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TacoLover · 09/07/2018 19:31

This seems like a non event tbh. Don't really know why you need to start a thread about it. I thought it was a really good article.

HermioneWeasley · 09/07/2018 19:33

Urgh, I’m not giving clicks to that homophobic shit. Would they interview trans men about gay male sex? I bet not.

Fuck them and their homophobia

JoyTheUnicorn · 09/07/2018 19:37

Lesbians are, by definition, female.
Asking a transwoman about lesbian sex is so typically woke it's getting boring.

happydappy2 · 09/07/2018 19:37

Is typical of the mindset of some media at the moment. Look at all the Women of the year awards awarded to trans women-a novelty for now.

Melamin · 09/07/2018 19:46

Not sure about all these statistics - sound a load of bollocks to me- people usually make things up when asked - and not sure that a 20 year old trans lesbian with experience of sex with men and with women (but not as a man?) really adds much to it.

Tackytriceratops · 09/07/2018 19:47

Yes that paragraph was completely irrelevant and ridiculous. The rest was good.

Can't women and lesbians have an article written about them without a person with xy chromosomes being included?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 09/07/2018 20:11

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TransplantsArePlants · 09/07/2018 20:21

Oh Give Over, Guardian

Did they think to talk to a woman about the effects of pregnancy, childbirth, hysterectomy or menopause? Did they heck!

Perhaps Alice could enlighten us?

Wanderabout · 09/07/2018 20:27

The Guardian jumped the shark way back when.

hackmum · 09/07/2018 21:33

I'm confused by that paragraph. Here it is:

"Alice Martin, a 20-year-old trans lesbian, says the same. “As a woman having sex with another woman, it’s a completely mind-bending experience. The mix of care, love, romance, pleasure, emotion and intensity is something that I never experienced with men.”

Why would Alice previously have been having sex with men? Presumably even if Alice now identifies as female rather than male, that wouldn't change who s/he was attracted to?

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 09/07/2018 21:41

Women understand clitorises because of having them seems logical.
People with penises understanding lesbian sex because of having a - no, wait.
I can't.
Anyone got a handy wall for me to bash my head on?

pachyderm · 09/07/2018 21:54

Does Alice have a clitoris? It's unlikely, isn't it so what's the point in their contribution?

Also the woman who had a relationship with a "cis man who became genderqueer" wtf does that mean either, did he put on some eyeliner?

bangs head on desk, mourns the old Guardian*

SPOFS · 09/07/2018 22:26

The fact that the Guardian will not open comments on this article tells you everything you need to know.

The Guardian know that if they open the comments, they will simply have a wall of gender critical posts.

When are they going to start listening to their readers?

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