The assault on human consciousness posed by cult identity politics, medicating children and technology.

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. Starts with talking about identity politics on the left and how it has alienated many traditional leftwingers who now find themselves politically homeless.

Also talks about how hijacked childhoods have become so young people are no longer prepared for adulthood. This is due largely to technology making addicts of many of us, as we’re all prone to dopamine hits, and how this addiction is affecting lots of children as it replaces their, historically, normal childhood experiences.

How helicopter parenting has led to a generation of young adults who really have experienced little risk, are unprepared as adults, have been overly influenced by technology and identity politics and which has led to the thinking that speech is violence.

And that these young adults are now influencing workplaces in unhealthy ways (shutting down dissent and coercing consent to inclusivity). Her approach also gives context to how so many young people believe things that aren’t scientific fact e.g. people can change sex.

Disclaimer - I don't support all of her views btw but this interview, though US centred, gave me a lot of useful background to the current climate of identity politics and how much the young have been subjected to undue influence.

ill have a look later x

:) yep it's an hour - I watched it whilst cooking!!

I could do a summary I suppose but it's best to hear it from the horses mouth I reckon, in this case

I’ll defo listen.

😄 see if lady brain can absorb the info.

Hopeful

I'll watch this. I've felt for a while that part of the problem is that young people are ostracised from wider society in a way that previous generations were not.

It's possible that in an effort to safeguard children, we've inadvertently prevented them from experiencing just what the world is like. They don't understand the implicit danger in a lot of their perspectives because they have no idea of real world threats.

I guess I've been trying to work out just why young women who support "woke" ideology don't see how vulnerable they are in its consequences, whereas it's blatantly obvious to middle aged me and my peers. The only conclusion I can come to is that these young women have never had those dodgy experiences,so they don't realise they exist and are fairly common.

I've felt for a while that part of the problem is that young people are ostracised from wider society in a way that previous generations were not.

Yes, she describes the factors that have led to that and their shielding from reality. She does mention that the next gen after that seems to be more conservative!! Quite what that means for women remains to be seen!!

They do have very dodgy experiences. The problem is that it is normalised.

Because most children are exposed to porn and this is how they learn about sex:
It’s normal for boys to expect girls to be filmed having sex, it’s normal for boys to send them dick pics, it’s normal for boys to pressure girls to do anal.
There are so many young girls getting tears because of this.

It’s normal for boys to demand girls send pictures of their genitalia.

Their boundaries have been
compromised so badly and they have to operate in this society. It’s normalized.

To be young and be GC you would be ostracised. I think many young girls are unsure about this all, but simply not in a place where they can voice it. Who wants to be called a bigot?

You know when you get the pained smile and “oh but they feel like women. “

I do think that their is more of s tendency to question your beliefs after life has bashed you about a bit.

I was much more certain about stuff in my early 20s. Than I am now.

The more we speak, the more we help others to think about what is going on.

Thanks for sharing. You can also listen to it as a podcast - the Rubin report - I find it easier for listening when I'm out and about instead of videos.

Thx viago useful info re podcast - I prefer them too!

I have grave concerns for the current generation of teens and children. From my own perspective as a pediatrician, I share many of her sentiments.

So many modern teens and young adults don't take any risks. It's critical to learn to dust oneself off after a major letdown and try again, whether that is in a relationship, a job, a sport, a hobby, a skill like driving a car, etc. Failure and negative experiences are actually a cornerstone of building resilience. And that's what keeps us going, what gives hope, and truly, what brings ingenuity and creativity to the world.

The porn...ah the porn! Kills me. I haven't examined an adolescent female in YEARS who still has pubic hair, (i.e. doesn't shave or wax). And isn't wearing a lacy thong or padded bra. The sexual expectations are so warped and, I believe, fully attributable to the effects of pornography.

Lest we forget about social media. The FOMO (fear of missing out), the picture perfect lives, the selfies, the validation of Twitter and Facebook and Tumblr. (If you have not looked at Tumblr, you have NO IDEA the undercurrent of serious medical health dysfunction in this generation. It's incredibly disturbing.)

I also totally agree about dopamine and instant gratification with electronics. Whether it's messaging or switching apps/games at the first twinge of boredom or even online shopping, we are fueling addictions and inattentive behavior, cementing neuronal pathways in a developing brain that may never be undone. It's frightening.

There are days I seriously wish I could grab my children and husband and escape this planet...

**George
I’m totally in agreement. The whole culture has become pornified and the effect on young girls is just horrific, one friend had to explain to a younger woman that what happened to her with a guy was assault. But it’s all normalised in porn.

Women are so degraded in porn and men too!
Pubic hair is considered dirty and repulsive. We now have are own FGM here under the guise of plastic surgery. ( I am aware this is sometimes needed for reasons other than aesthetic)

It must be so hard growing up with all this.
It also now seems to be a human right not to be offended. Resilience is the key to a good well lived life.

The influence of social media is so malign - ref the century of the self documentaries - it is driven totally by creating anxiety in the general populous to compel consumerism - to keep people perpetually in a state of off-balance believing that if they only get the next thing they will feel better and more content.

It's all a con.

Girls and women are particularly susceptible due to our emotions being manipulated by malign, skilled influencers. It's sophisticated mind control.

Boys are further conditioned to demand entitled sex acts from girls - from ages 10 & 11 now.

Girls are programmed to subjugate themselves to a pornified, surgically altered, stereotypical avatar of femininity that's always prostrated to men - it's horrific

Just google the word secretary and you can see the pornification at play.

Women were nowhere involved in the creation and governance of cyberspace and it's toxic masculinity run riot, in different forms. Zuckerberg and Gates keep their kids off it until their adolescence at 14/15- why? Because they know the harm it does to young minds - and even though they profit by it they don't want their kids affected by it - they want their kids to control it and others.

The technical architecture of the net is fantastic - it connects people and allows some element or empowerment - that's all well to the good.

But it's not been limited, their was no impact statement on how this might affect our societies and certainly no safeguarding review was done at all in any form. This is toxic capitalism at its worse.

Stop trying to get organisations and people to change - and think about how to take control of this mess for the greater good

• some element of empowerment

• there was no

Century of the self a powerful and thought provoking documentary, referred to by woman up thread.

sorry that was a dead link

Adam Curtis has produced other documentaries such as hypernormalisation and bitter lake. His documentaries are uncomfortably insightful, well worth watching.

Sorry to derail the thread

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Thx for the links and I will watch his other stuff.

Century of the Self was so very insightful

listened. really interesting, thanks, a lot there to think about.