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The Richard Dawkins Foundation is not gender critical... **Title Edited by MNHQ**

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SPOFS · 08/07/2018 21:38

I saw this yesterday, but I don't think anyone's posted about it yet.

Basically, the Richard Dawkins Foundation has tweeted several "trans women are women" type statements on their Twitter account. They claim to have lots of science, but they do not provide any...

From the Tweets, I'm guessing it's not Dawkins himself tweeting this... Dawkins is famously science-based in his arguments and doesn't accept anything that's "in your head" from what I've seen.

Amy way, this should be interesting....

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QuentinSummers · 11/07/2018 11:15

Atheism is absolutely a belief and in my opinion fundamental atheists (Thanks for that beeee) are just as dogmatic and irritating as religious fundamentalists.

Religion is fundamentally about faith and science is fundamentally about proof so to me god is separate to science.

FWIW I would love to have a religion but I'm too much of a scientist to go with a belief Grin

Minanka · 11/07/2018 12:48

Well since God can neither be proved nor disproved absolutely, does that not mean that any opinion on his existence is just a belief?

Is it simply a belief that unicorns don't exist?

In which case, agnosticism is the only rational answer.

Pratchet · 11/07/2018 12:53

An all powerful, all-good god can be disproved unless you redefine the evil things that happen in the world as 'not evil'

Minanka · 11/07/2018 13:33

An all powerful, all-good god can be disproved

Yes, but not the idea of a creator themselves. They are "unprovable", hence the faith aspect. If there's a lack of objective scientific evidence, is is a belief to say "there is no God/no evidence to substantiate a God?"

Minanka · 11/07/2018 13:35

Atheism is a lack of faith/belief. Atheism comes about from a lack of evidence of God existing. It's supposed to stick to what is provable.

Pratchet · 11/07/2018 13:42

I agree. An all powerful god who isn't all good can't be disproved, nor an all good god who isn't all powerful.

Faith bridges the gap. It's a choice.

Minanka · 11/07/2018 13:46

I agree. An all powerful god who isn't all good can't be disproved, nor an all good god who isn't all powerful.

Faith bridges the gap. It's a choice.

Do you subscribe to a more general faith in God, as opposed to the way Christianity portrays them then?

Pratchet · 11/07/2018 13:49

No, I'm a Christian. I know it doesn't make sense. I am one anyway. Faith.

QuentinSummers · 11/07/2018 15:45

Well since God can neither be proved nor disproved absolutely, does that not mean that any opinion on his existence is just a belief?
That's exactly it min and why I describe myself as agnostic

ErrolTheDragon · 11/07/2018 16:05

Most rational atheists I've discussed it with (myself included) are philosophically agnostic. So are most rational theists.

Theists add faith, atheists add logic and probability. (I used to be a Christian, with whatever intelligence and rationality same then as now)

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