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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

ROGD

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Hoggirl765 · 06/07/2018 15:29

My 14 year old daughter has told me she is transgender - just three weeks ago. There has never been any sign. She’s not a girly flowery pink girl But is feminine nonetheless. I have read extensively about ROGD and believe this is the case here. Before I even knew the school had starting callin her by her new boys name and using male pronouns. They have told me that they will change the school records whether I like it or not. She has had a lot of emotional upset in her young life so all I want is be certain that this is not a manefestation of something else. Any advice???

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PrincessMargaret · 06/07/2018 20:48

It's teenagers hating puberty and exploring their sexuality, which is normal teenage behaviour. Previously they would have been bi, goths, emo, etc etc. It gives me the RAGE that so many now apparently have gender dysphoria, as they really don't in 99% of cases and that trans stuff is everywhere!

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 20:52

I’ve posted on Justine’s current thread requesting that this board have something like the transwidows thread for parents of children who have declared a gender identity.

Policing the language of parents seeking support isn’t helpful and is tantamount to bullying (and ROGD was the title of the thread, not something GC posters had introduced to the discussion).

This is rather famously one of the few places you can question gender theory online, and the fact that the other OP came here to ask about it (as opposed to say, a parents of LGBT children board) should be respected.

Every poster has been respectful towards the needs of the child and no one has suggested not following the child’s lead with regards to presentation/pronouns etc.

Hoggirl765 · 06/07/2018 22:22

Thank you FloralBunting

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Hoggirl765 · 06/07/2018 22:23

Thank you LangCleg

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Starkstaring · 06/07/2018 22:35

There are some threads on LBGT children and in the teenagers thread too which you might find helpful:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/lgbt_children

You are not alone.

garam · 06/07/2018 22:45

ThreeWeeBirds
I think you would be better served reading links that involve trans perspectives and experts rather than a propaganda site like 4thwavenow.

www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/2/20/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-biased-junk-science

thinkprogress.org/transgender-children-desistance-a5caf61fc5c6/

Pythagonal · 06/07/2018 23:11

An interesting article in counterpoint to the two posted by garam

www.thecut.com/2016/07/whats-missing-from-the-conversation-about-transgender-kids.html

Floorplan · 06/07/2018 23:25

It's all very worrying that parents coming to mumsnet are met with TRA extremism. Any thoughts Justine?

Datun · 06/07/2018 23:31

Hoggirl765

Other posters have given you the links that I would have given you.

There are also the boards on MN supporting parents of LGBT children.

Stephanie Davis Arai of Transgender Trend has only ever been an advocate for children. She is gentle, softly spoken, kind and patient. You could try dropping her an email, via her website.

garam

I might have misunderstood, but are you saying is no such thing as ROGD?

If so, how would you account for the ten girls who all came out simultaneously at Saint Pauls School?

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 23:34

Here’s the Atlantic article I mentioned earlier.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/

NewbieSpartacus · 06/07/2018 23:42

Hoggirl765 I don't have advice but can offer solidarity, I'm in a similar position. It's the hardest thing I've ever dealt with. (That's what she said - sorry - I'm infantile)

garam I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. There is 'no such thing' as ROGD because the DSM defines gender incongruence as presenting from a very young age. So that reading would imply that there is, medically speaking, no such condition. So why would you be seeking to transition such children? Are you suggesting these kids have been dysphoric for 10 years before they mention it? Or that it's not the case that many adolescents are identifying as trans now?

Italiangreyhound · 07/07/2018 02:20

Betty that link is great. She has done loads of other ones but I cannot find them at the moment.

MsBeee · 07/07/2018 02:27

I just want to send you love and support.

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