Just 13 per cent of Conservative voters agree with Theresa May's transgender policy, poll finds

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www.indy100.com/article/transgender-rules-reform-gender-recognition-act-2004-dysphoria-theresa-may-8427476

Theresa May vowed to reform the Gender Recognition Act at the PinkNews Awards in October 2017, in order to reflect that "being trans is not an illness", with plans including the removal of bureaucratic stoppages within the process of changing a person's gender on their birth certificate.

But a new poll for PinkNews found that only 18 per cent of voters, and 13 per cent of Conservative voters, agree with updating the Gender Recognition Act to reflect more informed attitudes towards being transgender.

That is really interesting - as it is a poll for Pink News you would have expected those polled to be much more supportive of bringing in self id TBH.

The Tories are only saying "trans isn't a mental illness" etc so that they can remove the NHS's funding for it. The TRAs have met their manipulative match with the conservatives....

Good. More polling. I've been saying for ages that this is exactly what we need.

Personally, I think the results do actually reflect more informed opinion - not to being transgender, but to the demands of the extremist transactivists.

It mostly makes me wonder how many comments Pink News deletes from readers who're not buying the TRA line any more than the women here are.

Bet they're not told that it's inflammatory for too many of them to speak at once though.

Dare we consider that the poll suggests common sense is prevailing on this issue, despite all the propaganda and false suicide statistics etc?

Interesting comment AAK.

Ooo! Interesting!

AAK that's true - I have never had a comment stand on a PN article, and I am never abusive. Only factual.

My realisation that GC comments were being heavily censored online was what drew me to GC activism in the first place TBH.

Threads about trans issues at The Guardian often end up looking like swiss cheese because any comment that's even vaguely GC is deleted. Maybe Pink News commenters have decided to put articles about trans issues in their personal "don't read, it will only annoy me" filters? Because certainly the gulf between this poll and the comments on the site is massive.

I wonder what Lib Dems and Labour feel about this. Even if 23 per cent of their supporters are in favour it shows a policy that isn't popular with votes - and that's with only a small amount of negative publicity. The trans lobby have definitely made more noise and been censored less.

I think that if gender reassignment surgery is given priority over other things, eg all the things on the recent list of treatments that are being restricted, there will be a huge backlash.

unherd.com/2018/06/left-hate-gay-tories/

(extract)
The propaganda from the Left against gay Tories is relentless
Don’t believe me? Visit the homepage of Pride in London and do a search for “lesbian”: no matches. Gay men and lesbian women are being written out of the official transcript of 21st-century homosexual British life. It’s not wrong to wonder “why?”

I’m aware of the potential irony, here, in a gay man complaining about usage of the word ‘gay’. The point is that the word itself is being deleted, along with the noun to which it refers; ‘LGBTQ’ is not a new synonym for ‘gay’. I am a gay man, not an ‘LGBTQ’ one; ‘LGBTQ’ is a political identity, not a sexual one (and ‘queer’ is a word I’d recommend not to apply to me, not within earshot.)

To understand why this is happening, ask any woman — gay, straight, Left or Right — who queries the demands of some transgender lobby groups that gender no longer be defined as anything to do with innate biology. (Note: my ire is aimed at lobby groups, not people, all of whom deserve dignity and respect.) Such pressure leads at best to the farce of charities targeting their cervical cancer campaigns at ‘human beings with a womb’, rather than ‘women’; at worst to the abomination of rapists self-defining as women in order to be moved from male to female prisons. And the women who question this are monstered, de-platformed, vilified, censored: the attempt to silence their (very mainstream) opinions is as alarming as it’s informative." (continues)

Interesting to compare that 18% overall with this from a BBC report on the British Social Attitudes survey last year:

"The group of people answering that they thought same-sex partnerships were "not wrong at all" has almost quadrupled from 17% when the survey started in 1983, to 64% in 2016."

Shows how quickly the public's attitude towards minority groups can change quite quickly.

What is also interesting is that Labour's vote share has dropped significantly in the latest polls.

What is also interesting is that Labour's vote share has dropped significantly in the latest polls.

The Corbyn factor

Milly

The British Social Attitudes Survey contains a statistic that last year the majority of respondents felt trans people should be able to use a toilet of the gender in which they identify.

however it described trans gender as '

a man who has gone through all or part of a process to become a woman. ' (and the reverse for women) so I can imagine most people think 'part' of a process is still a long way down the surgery route rather than identification.

www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/media/39147/bsa34_moral_issues_final.pdf

The reason I have been researching this is that my house was selected to take part in the British Attitudes Survey and I was really excited to be able to give my view on this. Sadly they randomly selected dh so I spent an hour educating him on the subject last night! They're interviewing him later this week.

The Corbyn factor

Nope. The woman factor. Down by a minimum of 8 points in the last six months.

The labour drop is almost exclusively down to women leaving.

The politicians lived up to their roles in the Emperor's New clothes.

Shows how quickly the public's attitude towards minority groups can change quite quickly.

Acceptance of gay marriage did not require the subordination of the rights of half the population or a sustained campaign to doxx, harrass or silence people wishing to debate the issue or balance the needs of others. I suspect this will be a tougher ‘sell’ because the trans rights lobby have alienated large sections of society that would otherwise have been natural allies or sympathetic to the cause. It’s a case study in how NOT to “take people with you.”

I've left Labour and am now, like many FWR regulars, politically homeless.

Under the Independent article, the next one flagged is 14 ways transactivists would like allies to support them. Wasn't all that enthused, somehow.

a man who has gone through all or part of a process to become a woman.

It's such shitty disingenuous language.

14 ways transactivists would like allies to support them.

I can only speculate as I think I will have an immediate rage stroke if I read that, having read a 74 pp "be a better ally, you're shit" document last week linked to in a ridiculous guardian article.

How about 14 ways trans activists can support women?

(crickets)

Here's a poll question:

How do you feel about the legal erasure of the female sex, and their rights being removed and transferred to anyone who declares a female 'psyche'?