Paris Lees on “What makes us human” R2 Jeremy Vine

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Coming up later, apparently.

Do you reckon Paris will be able to answer this question without reference to trans issues or suicide rates?

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Vine is a cyclist so keep your expectations low

I absolutely DID NOT want to ruin a serene sunny day by listening to this, but here I am.

Enjoying the fact that the intro record is Fleetwood Mac's 'Tell Me Lies.'

Ha ha! Tell me Lies!

You are doing a Good Thing! Keep us posted

Jealous Guy, Oh my, the songs get better and better!

maybe there's a t* on the show

Credit where due, it was a very good essay. Nothing at all about gender, but about child abuse and forgiveness. Moving and well written.

Little lies and jealous guy! He must be doing this on purpose!

I thought it was great. She also has a lovely voice.

Shania Twain next maybe?

Oh lees is presenting? This must be the life changing thing

Bbc is unbelievably biased. Wow.

That's twice now she has distanced herself from, as she terms it, "poofters".

That's homophobic

I think she was quoting her father when she used the word poofter.

Pratchet it's a regular slot called 'what makes us human' where prominent people read out an essay they've written (on what makes us human, surprisingly) then get their chosen record played and are interviewed afterwards.

PL's essay was good, BUT I was about the opening bit which was all about his (not misgendering - talking about PL as a small child) explicit and extreme violent fantasies of beating up his father, battering him with a baseball bat etc. As someone who claims to have been essentially female since birth, this seems highly incongruous. And contradictory. To say the least.

Oh thanks. There was a lot of homophobia driving h** choices there, I guess.

Love Paris. She’s a terrific journalist and activist and a genuinely nice person.

Interesting.

PL: I just needed to be me

JV: And 'being me' meaning what? Fully transitioning to being female?

PL: (nervous laugh. Hesitation.) Well... yeah. Just being a girl.

At home with mum today. She's not political and hasn't been aware or much of this but without a second's hesitation found the idea that you can change sex or be born in the wrong body utterly ridiculous.

Paris Lees describes the experience of being 'pimped' by an older man as a vulnerable 16 year old which led to the incident resulting in conviction and imprisonment.

Later brings up that as well as campaigning for transgender rights she is also keen to campaign for sex work, mentions advertising.

I think they’re coming across much better than I expected. I feel for them and their awful childhood.

No one hasn't changed sex, however sympathetic one might feel.

There have been a number of comments by some TRAs that this is a genderational thing and that 40+ people don't understand diversity.